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NBC: 5 Southern Baptist churches in Alabama set afire. More to come...
MSNBC ^ | February 3, 2006

Posted on 02/03/2006 6:23:02 AM PST by precedence

More to come....


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: baptist; church; churchburning; southernbaptist
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To: mnehrling
It is tin foil Friday you know!

Got a summary of how the DUers are connecting burning Christian churches to Bush?
141 posted on 02/03/2006 8:35:53 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: wideawake

Good info in your 122. thanks


142 posted on 02/03/2006 8:35:54 AM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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To: conservative physics
probably a religion of peace response to cartoon images of mohammad.

I would not entirely rule that out. Flashback:

Two Pakistan Churches Burned

Saturday, November 12, 2005

LAHORE , Pakistan — Hundreds of Muslims attacked and burned two churches in Pakistan on Saturday after reports that a Christian man had desecrated Islam's holy book. No one was injured in the blazes.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,175385,00.html

143 posted on 02/03/2006 8:36:27 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: penelopesire
Here is another map giving a better idea of where the burnings took place. Fairview is the locations in Chilton COunty. Centreville, Antioch and Lawley are to the NW alont HWY 82. Brierfield is directly north up by Ashby on Hwy 139.

As an aside the area I mentioned as Alabastan can be seen down in the lower left of the map around Marion.


144 posted on 02/03/2006 8:38:09 AM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: commish

Thanks for the update. This is really sad on so many levels. So many southern rural churches are really old and historic as well, not to mention the obvious tragedy of burning down a house of GOD! It really makes my heart sore.


145 posted on 02/03/2006 8:38:11 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham; RadioAstronomer
Those danged Lutherans up to trouble again?

Unless they stole our beer and brats, doubt it. :)

147 posted on 02/03/2006 8:39:53 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
So far just comments on how they 'must have gone against Bush doctrine'.. The DUers are being somewhat sane on this with a few exceptions.. One person suspects that the 'Mega Churches' were eliminating the competition...
148 posted on 02/03/2006 8:40:18 AM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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To: The Pastor

I would like to think it isn't, but as I have pointed out the area not too far to the Southwest of the burnings houses a large Nation of Islam population. SO it cannot be ruled out.


149 posted on 02/03/2006 8:40:35 AM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: mnehrling

One person suspects that the 'Mega Churches' were eliminating the competition...

Now that is kind of funny!


150 posted on 02/03/2006 8:41:00 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
NCevilDUer (1000+ posts) Fri Feb-03-06 10:33 AM Response to Reply #13
18. Those aren't real churches.
Real churches employ hundreds of people and fleece, uh, serve thousands.

I'm only half joking. I think the mega-churches see themselves as big business, and the best way to increase your customer base is to shut down the competition. You never hear about THEM being burned.




To be fair, most of the DUers right now are very civil about this.
151 posted on 02/03/2006 8:42:56 AM PST by mnehring (Perry 06- It's better than a hippie in a cowboy hat or a commie with blue hair.)
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To: wideawake
Anabaptism was another school of Protestant theology alongside Lutheranism, Zwinglianism,Calvinism, etc. -

True, but the primary issue that separated Anabaptists from other protestants of that period was their rejection of infant baptism.

The Anabaptist sect predated the Reformation era, and Anabaptists were often persecuted by the Catholic Church before the Reformation era and by both protestants and Catholics during and after that era. IIRC, at least one prominent protestant reformer in Switzerland sentenced a number of Anabaptists to be drowned in a nearby river during that time.

I think that most, or many, liturgical denominations still practice infant baptism, most evangelical/fundamentalist denominations and non-denominational churches don't.

152 posted on 02/03/2006 8:44:18 AM PST by epow (Life is not a choice, it's a gift.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

The Southern Baptist convention started over the fact that the Northern Baptists wouldn't allow a missionary from the South to go on the mission field because he owned slaves. We apologized for that a few years ago. But, still, most S.B.C. churches are white. National Baptists are mostly if not exclusively black.


153 posted on 02/03/2006 8:44:36 AM PST by Blogger
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To: commish

glad you posted the map over here. Wonder which churches burned first, next last, etc.? If you hear anything about the sequence, let us know. It could tell us which way the arsonist's were traveling. I am sure the police are looking into that aspect as we speak, but will probably not report it.


154 posted on 02/03/2006 8:44:48 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: penelopesire

Local News here says that the Old New harmony Church in Fairview was the first one to be reported. So that tends to lead to a S to N movement. NOthing definative in the reports yet though.


155 posted on 02/03/2006 8:46:41 AM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: Onelifetogive
News feeds say some white and some black. As bad as the anti christian hatred is, there is a good thing to it. It is when the Church is hated that it becomes less and less like the proud, hostile, "we are your overlords" caricature and more like the humble and aggressively loving church that turned the 1st century world upside down.

If the church is respected and honored, then great. It is a sign -however weak- of respect for her Savior. If, on the other hand, the church is despised and reviled, and harrassed, then look out! God's people may in fact quit chasing money, status, and acceptance, and stop looking first and foremost to a decadent culture to guarantee their "rights"...... and cry out to Him. When that happens, a power gets unleashed that the world simply cannot explain or tolerate, although it is fascinated by it.

Either way, we win.

156 posted on 02/03/2006 8:46:57 AM PST by When_Penguins_Attack (Smashing Windows, Breaking down Gates. Proud Mepis User!!!!)
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To: WKB
"It's unclear if the church fires are connected."

Geeez! Just take a pencil draw a line between the dots and then you will see they are connected.

157 posted on 02/03/2006 8:46:58 AM PST by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: precedence

SBC churches are usually predominately white.

Is this a black church burning?

if so that is likely some national baptist thing....and we know who was doing the burning in the last hysteria


158 posted on 02/03/2006 8:47:00 AM PST by wardaddy (Southern American)
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To: precedence

Here's what I think.

The churches that were burned could be all black or all white or a mixture of black and white or some are all white and some are all black or there might even be some brown or yellow or any mixture of all of the above. Some of them might have even been a front for Muslims.

The fires could have all been accidental or set by black racists or white racists or Muslims or atheists or disgruntled Baptists or some loon with no agenda or a bunch of gays or drunk teenagers or some good old boys out for some fun or a mixture of all of those.

And I think the MSM will blow it out of proportion or ignore it or something in between.

Just a little speculation.


159 posted on 02/03/2006 8:47:34 AM PST by Gone GF
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To: wardaddy

Fox News "confirmed" not long ago that the churches were predominately white congregations. Which explains why all the networks but Fox are no longer on the story.


160 posted on 02/03/2006 8:49:07 AM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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