Texas Sheriff says Mexican army has threatened his deputies and their families

KVIA TV 7 El Paso (ABC) ^ | 020106 | CAWats

[CAWats]

In the past few days, Hudspeth County Sheriff's Department deputies and their families have received threats to stay off the Rio Grande. Sheriff Arvin West told ABC-7 Thursday morning, before departing for Houston that the Mexican military is behind all of this.

Sheriff West said, "There is no doubt in my mind -- from the first time going back to a couple of years ago and every time in between --- it's the Mexican military. In a nutshell, everybody's been trying to tell everybody that they were here...they've been here ...[and] they come here quite often, regularly."

[NewRomeTacitus]

Hey, thanks! I thought it was one of my better summations.

If you wish to add me to your list of "racists" because of that opinion (#192 btw) please feel free to do so. If the choice is between Frankfurt School tyranny of "political correctness" that has convinced a generation to live in undeserved guilt and diversity-worship, or thinking for myself on the basis of acquired knowledge, I'll take the latter and accept charges of racism from the former as a compliment every time.

Or I could say, "Gee Mickey. I'd love to be a racist...those NASCAR guys get all the purty girls - hu-yuck, uh huh!"

[compuguru]

In this thread- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1572308/posts?page=8#8 - I found the following statement:

"On a Jan. 28 visit to Laredo, Border Patrol Chief David Aguilar said he expected more trouble as the agency beefs up enforcement along stretches of the border traditionally controlled by organized crime."

To which I replied:

There should be NO part of the US border 'traditionally' controlled by anybody but the US!

It ticks me off that a BP official admits there are parts of the border that are controlled by someone other than US!

[DoughtyOne]

You an I agree on that. What drives me nuts though, is our president is well aware of this and STILL acts like an 8 year old girl with a three year old's resolve on this topic. Frankly, it causes me to be very intemperate with my remarks.

[jeremiah]

It is the only chance for the Republicans to find their way back to the conservative side. That is more important than one election cycle. If the Republicans stay in control, there will be a further move to the left, they are already farther that direction than most Democrats were in the 60's.

[compuguru]

...our president is well aware of this and STILL acts like an 8 year old girl with a three year old's resolve on this topic.

His inaction is disturbing. Despite the pressure from his base to act decisively, he doesn't. What could be the cause? Though we control both houses of Congress, their support for effective action is iffy at best. Perhaps use Executive power to enact the first measures for a minimum 90 day period. Force Congress to overturn it after 90 days; they would have to explain why, despite the probable dramatic evidence that would surface during the period of closure.

[DoughtyOne]

Bush seems to think it's his missionary project, to allow poor uneducted Mexicans to over-run our nation. He's made comments since he was a governor revealing that he has no intention whatsoever of putting a stop to what is taking place. In the next twenty-five years, this nation will be 30-40% Mexican or recent Mexican immigrant if this keeps up. When that happens, northern Europeans will no longer be the clear majority in our nation.

Take a look at Europe. Within the next fifty years, there may be no nation on this earth that has a northern European majority population. Not one...

Imagine signing on to a project that would end black majority rule in every nation on earth. Imagine that kind of a policy with regard to any race? It wouldn't be tollerated for ten minutes. But if we're talking about White Northern Europeans, why hey, it's a great plan.

Don't ask me why? I haven't any idea why. All I can address is what I see taking place.

The people who eleveated our civilization to the pinacle of planetary success, have deemed their own self-rule or existance to be of no consequence.

I'm not a racist, but you don't have to be one to see the handwriting on the wall. No other race on the planet would allow what we are allowing to take place. Not one.

[joanie-f]

All of my Mexican friends are hard working people … Here in Texas Spanish was spoken here long before English … eastforker

Both glib, but no less worn and tired, pro-illegal immigration talking points. (And I can’t help but notice that you chose to capitalize Spanish and not afford the same respect to English. Was that purposeful … or a Freudian slip?)

I do not have any hard-working Mexican friends … primarily because I do not have any Mexican friends … primarily because I live in an area of the country that has an extremely small Mexican population.

If you will allow me to stretch the issue a bit, our daughter is dating someone of Hispanic descent. He moved, with his parents and two brothers, to America from Bolivia when he was thirteen years old. His parents left teaching positions in South America in order to bring their children to a country that they believed would afford them more opportunities. Today he is working for the Transportation Safety Administration in DC, and he and the other four members of his family have been productive citizens pretty much from the moment they set foot on American soil – not always working in the jobs they would have liked, but always working … and doing so legally.

I am not, and never have been, biased against anyone on the basis of his heritage or country of origin, and I know FR’s czar (and I suspect the other current FReepers to whom you would choose to affix the ‘haters of Mexican people’ label) share my belief in not categorizing people by their country of origin.

But, when significant numbers of people from a specific country commit a criminal act, and, after doing so, also (1) seek to rob me and my countrymen of the fruits of our labor, (2) place in serious danger the sovereignty of large portions of my country (3) drain major economic powers and decision-making abilities from law-abiding citizens, and (4) threaten to inflict serious damage on the more than two-centuries-old culture that I hold dear … then, yes, I will do everything within my power to put a stop to the corrosive influence of that insidious subset of the Mexican citizenry known as ‘illegal immigrants’.

Certain American businesses thrive on employing cheap labor, and the politically correct in politics, the media and academia have formed an unholy alliance with these businesses. As a result, my fellow citizens and I have begun to awaken to the alarming fact that our republic is being stolen out from under us. Power and profit have taken precedence over allegiance and law.

Not necessarily in overt alliance with the above ‘Americans’ who are actively working to destroy our economy, our sovereignty, our national security, and our cultural roots -- but in indirect alliance nonetheless -- is the Mexican government and military -- both of which are taking part in activities ranging from the printing of pamphlets delineating how best to cross the US border without detection, to formulating plans to actually annex portions of the US.

I (and most others on this forum who are speaking out against illegal immigration) do not hate Mexicans. We do not hate a people. We hate the fact that our country’s sovereignty, healthcare system, education system, legal/judicial system, economy, and cultural heritage all face eventual bankruptcy or demise as a result of criminals hiding under the sleazy coat-tails of both business and political decision-makers in this country who are either too weak-willed to take the steps to stop the criminality, or benefiting economically or leftist-ideologically from it.

Whether or not their behaviors spring from different motives, American business/political decision-makers who are aiding and abetting this criminality are indirectly working in concert with the Mexican government to the grave detriment of our own citizenry. So informed, concerned Americans are fighting this watershed battle on two fronts: that represented by illegals streaming across our southern border, in alliance with their government that is encouraging the mass exodus … and that represented by members of our own business community and our own government, who place personal wealth and power above the security and sovereignty of the nation whose laws they pretend to respect and whose security they purport to hold dear.

We Americans, who will not sit silently by as we are invaded by an outside ‘army’ and collectively betrayed by some of the most rich and powerful among us, are anything but bigots or racists. And we are weary of (and fast growing oblivious to) the labels. We have a much more lethal enemy to confront than mud-slingers.

So call us what you will. There is nothing at the core of our anger but a deep and genuine concern for the survival of our republic. And if you, or others, choose to translate that anger into something less than noble, it is you who have lost sight of the essence of individual liberty … and the instinctual knowledge that personal responsibility, and personal vigilance, are required to preserve it.

~ joanie ….

[NewRomeTacitus]

As a matter of fact many of those racist were banned several years ago when JR was pro immigration.

Mr. Robinson has always been and, as far as I can discern, still pro-immigration. Almost all of the members of the current Immigration Ping Lists are pro-immigration. If you're confusing immigration with alien invasion like so many media-befuddled people like to do, then I must acknowledge that JR used to eject anti-illegal immigration posters on the basis of his available information and because many of those posters losing composure to the extent of becoming insulting or worse. Many opted out voluntarily; some like myself choose to stick it out because we strive to convince others with logic and relating personal experiences - like in a forum (imagine that!).

To consider JR's pro-immigration stance is the same as your's equating that term with a tacit approval to ignore current laws for the benefit of a protected minority...I wouldn't be so presumptuous. I do presume that he's concerned with the survival of our nation and the future of the Conservative Movement - just as it says on Free Republic's face page. If that means certain co-opted Republicans don't get the rub the media gives them...they should have been more conservative.

As always, JR, correct me where I'm wrong. This thread seems to reflect the current battle between the WSJ neocons who've taken center ring in the "Big Tent" and the Goldwaterists trying to bring the Republican Party back from the undue influence of contributors who make that money at the expense of human misery. I've proposed using a third party to flog it into compliance and advocate using that Coloradan to adjust the next Presidential race's agenda. They (the Pubs) have let this problem ride so long that the common tater (where's that guy?) can't help but believe that they're all bought off by profiteers. As silly as it might seem to read it, base revolt is not out of the picture. They are grumbling loudly, very aware they're being taken for granted like Black folks by the Democrat Party and looking closely while Dr. Frist seems to believe he can foist this off on his successor. The right-leaning citizens I talk to gave up on the Administration enforcing the law quite some time ago. They're not for enabling Hillary as so many intimate. They just want someone in charge who loves America enough to lead it in a way that excludes other countries having any say in it and supports our (now tenuous) edge on this planet - as opposed to being a state in a global government.

Too many fanatical and envious people and envious governments out there to believe that we'd ever gain anything from rolling over for them. Peace through strength means just that.

[JudgemAll]

well, lawyers like him want to be at the top of the food chain of the territoriality business. You know "rule of law" (and not truth for us) territory for lawyers means any ahole can enter this country illegaly with their help, not standing trials of entry... nor do lawyers, by the way.

This is not Mexico vs. America per say, IT'S A MARXIST TROTZKYIST LAWYERS' WAR ON BOTH AMERICA AND MEXICO. The lawyers want trials against us without a fence to make such trials possible against the other parties.

That said, we do need a border in the meantime to make things clear, manageable and in good standing.

And I have this to say to the world:

if ya'll think America is in need of degreasing, then ya'll might as well start digging your own concentration camp graves, coz that's what the world's gona become like.

Hear me out fatso lawyers.

Since the womb is not a safe place anymore, NOWHERE IS GONA BE SAFE, IT'S GONA RAIN DEATH ON THE GOOD AND THE BAD, AND ANTI-US BASED RECRIMINATION DEGREASING FOR ALL IS IN ORDER.

[Marine Inspector]

When there is no one there to stop them what else would expect to happen?

I expect them to obey the laws and stay out. Just like when I leave my house for work, I expect folks to stay out. The only folks that don’t are low life criminals that could care less about another persons property and that is exactly what illegal aliens are.

This government basicly let them come across

No, this government made laws and expects people to obey them. Your statement shows you lack of understanding of laws. In your fantasy world, it’s OK for people top break into other peoples homes, steal, rape, murder, molest and commit other criminal acts, because there is not a cop in every home or business to stop them, so it’s basically OK to do it.

If I was a mexican citizen I would want to come here also.

Good for you, just because you would want to do something, does not give you the right to break the law. I want to go to the Super Bowl; that does not give me the right to break in and steal another’s seat.

People been coming over that border for years with very little opposition.

People have been committing murder for much longer with just as little opposition; it does not make it right.

How many illegal cubans get to stay in this country because they made it to land?

A few hundred a year and it’s irrelevant to the argument.

And as far as breaking any laws, most of us break them one way or another any day of the week we leave the house.

Wrong again and it’s also irrelevant.

[Marine Inspector]

Well said!

[Smokin' Joe]

Here in North Dakota, Lakota, Mitchiff, and Cree, among others were spoken long before English. Times change.

[NewRomeTacitus]

That last one was good. So you do get riled up! We should all be getting riled up and motivated because those anti-American *ssholes out there working with Soros's money never rest (and few of them wash, by my personal observations). It's still our country!

[Marine Inspector]

So you do get riled up!

Occasionally.

[MamaTexan]

Right, and we're supposed to pretend that this kind of comment isn't racist right? It all goes to hell when the Mexicans move in, but it's not racist

That's the problem. For people who run around with a racial chip on their shoulder EVERYTHING is racist.

Frankly, I don't give a fat rat's a$$ as to what you want to 'pretend'.

My post was a recap of a conversation I had with a friend the other day. He was complaining that his neighborhood had turned into a barrio.

Do you know why he used that particular word?

Because HE'S FROM MEXICO!

Pretty RACIST of him, huh?

[wardaddy]

For starters:

Let's assume we are only talking about Mexican descended folks living here.

Then let's say that for sure all Mexicans do not live in dangerous barrios. They certainly don't.

But now let's ask how many Mexicans do live in dangerous barrios as opposed to "anglos".

Then let's ask at what rate are Mexican youth in gangs as opposed to "anglos".

Then let's ask at what rate are Mexican youth in the joint as opposed to "anglos".

This is what folks see and from where they draw their opinions. From real observations and it worries them.

Not the nice Mexican families they know....or even the hard workers who may be quite poor actually.

That's just the way it is. Same reason your average American is more fearful of a redneck in a pick up in a bar parking lot than some Yankee in a plaid coat who looks like Bob Newhart driving a Volvo.

Perceptions with a foot in reality. That is not racism.

At least not to me.

[wardaddy]

Barrio, ranchos, favela..etc are not racist terms.

They are used all over latinamerica.

[MamaTexan]

Barrio, ranchos, favela..etc are not racist terms.

Thank you. I appreciate your comment.

Some, sadly, will never see it that way.

Since race and/or color is always at the forefront of THEIR minds, they believe everyone else looks at the world that way, too.

[Czar]

"Look in this very thread for all the evidence you'll ever need."

You don't seem to be doing any better than eastfork. I have no intention of doing his homework for him or your homework for you. It's an exercise in futility. Where you see racism in a post, I don't. Eastfork has leveled racism charges he cannot support, despite having a go at naming me. It didn't fly. He has failed completely. But I can see you're undeterred.

"Why, if Mexicans move in next door, the supermarkets will be filthy, you'll have to bar your windows, the neighborhood will become a bario, and who knows what else. All comments lifted from this thread."

I find these kinds of personal experiences credible, as do others on this thread. Not all that unusual in southern California. Have someone take you on a tour of east LA, San Pedro, Wilmington or Santa Ana sometime. Better yet, move there. Then you will have your own experience to relate.

" The evidence is right there under your nose."

Your nose, perhaps. Not mine.

While you and eastforker see a racist under every bed, all I see are loyal American conservatives determined to fight each and every attempt to do away with American sovereignty, secure and protected borders, and the preservation of American culture, traditions, customs and language. If, in your eyes, this constitutes racism--tough.

[wardaddy]

Identity politics trumps everything even amongst conservatives....with rare exception