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To: Anti-Bubba182

I think the New York Times owner and the editorial staff should be in prison for divulging national defense secrets in the middle of a war.


3 posted on 02/02/2006 3:30:15 PM PST by dinok
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To: dinok
I agree, but the article gives an example of how a paper did this and escaped.

"..Although it has gone almost entirely undiscussed, the issue of leaking vital government secrets in wartime remains of exceptional relevance to this entire controversy, as it does to our very security. There is a rich history here that can help shed light on the present situation.

One of the most pertinent precedents is a newspaper story that appeared in the Chicago Tribune on June 7, 1942, immediately following the American victory in the battle of Midway in World War II. In a front-page article under the headline, “Navy Had Word of Jap Plan to Strike at Sea,” the Tribune disclosed that the strength and disposition of the Japanese fleet had been “well known in American naval circles several days before the battle began.” The paper then presented an exact description of the imperial armada, complete with the names of specific Japanese ships and the larger assemblies of vessels to which they were deployed. All of this information was attributed to “reliable sources in . . . naval intelligence.”

The inescapable conclusion to be drawn from the Tribune article was that the United States had broken Japanese naval codes and was reading the enemy’s encrypted communications. Indeed, cracking JN-25, as it was called, had been one of the major Allied triumphs of the Pacific war, laying bare the operational plans of the Japanese Navy almost in real time and bearing fruit not only at Midway—a great turning point of the war—but in immediately previous confrontations, and promising significant advantages in the terrible struggles that still lay ahead. Its exposure, a devastating breach of security, thus threatened to extend the war indefinitely and cost the lives of thousands of American servicemen.

An uproar ensued in those quarters in Washington that were privy to the highly sensitive nature of the leak. The War Department and the Justice Department raised the question of criminal proceedings against the Tribune under the Espionage Act of 1917. By August 1942, prosecutors brought the paper before a federal grand jury. But fearful of alerting the Japanese, and running up against an early version of what would come to be known as graymail, the government balked at providing jurors with yet more highly secret information that would be necessary to demonstrate the damage done.

Thus, in the end, the Tribune managed to escape criminal prosecution. For their part, the Japanese either never got wind of the story circulating in the United States or were so convinced that their naval codes were unbreakable that they dismissed its significance. In any case, they left them unaltered, and their naval communications continued to be read by U.S. and British cryptographers until the end of the war.4.."

The part I bolded shows that their was little, if any, damage in the Tribune case. I don't think you can say that in the case of the Times, but I doubt if anything is done. The NY Times thinks itself bigger than the law and sadly has managed to make that stick. Their is neither the support or will in Washington to do more than complain.

6 posted on 02/02/2006 3:39:59 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: dinok
I stand by my earlier prediction that nobody at the NY Times will face any kind of prosecution in this case, and that any grand jury investigation will be nothing more than a lot of hot air and political posturing.

I'm no fan of the NY Times, but it's hard to make the case that the newspaper "divulged national defense secrets" when all they really did was reveal information that had been revealed in open public records -- including at least one media report recently prepared by the U.S. Department of Justice -- on a number of occasions over the years.

12 posted on 02/02/2006 4:26:58 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Leave a message with the rain . . . you can find me where the wind blows.)
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To: dinok
I think the New York Times owner and the editorial staff should be in prison for divulging national defense secrets in the middle of a war.

SECOND that - I have been posting ever since Dec 16, 2005 that Pinchy Sulzberger and Risen should be frog marched off to prison. We don't need no trial they're undeniable proof they are traitors is in the paper.

23 posted on 02/02/2006 5:30:22 PM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin during wartime considered Sedition?)
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To: dinok

It will never happen but should. No Congressional Com. will ever take on the Post or the Times. And the Left will always whistle up the Free Speech baloney. It would be brave if a Fed. attorney would indict the Times on this very thing, just to get the paper in a court to explain itself. But, that will never happen. The only thing that will bring down the Post and Times is for bloggers, Talk Radio and the alternative media exposing their anti-American Left wing bias on a daily level.


31 posted on 02/02/2006 7:02:38 PM PST by phillyfanatic
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To: dinok

Don't forget that Risen character. He belongs in jail, too.


36 posted on 02/02/2006 9:01:43 PM PST by Purrcival (See Cindy. See Cindy flop. Flop, Cindy, flop!)
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