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Watch the video.

For the life of me I can't think of any reason to tell the kid to stand up other than to shoot him.

I mean what sort of police procedure has you telling a suspect to get up off the ground where he is prone?

1 posted on 02/01/2006 8:26:32 AM PST by Smogger
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Not to mention how embarassing it must be to have one of your officers fire four times from a distance of 4 feet and have the target still talking to him, and in "good" condition in the hospital.
2 posted on 02/01/2006 8:29:25 AM PST by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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Survived Iraq, came home to be shot by a cop for no reason. I am without words.


3 posted on 02/01/2006 8:29:38 AM PST by BubbaTheRocketScientist
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If the reported description of audio and video is accurate, sounds like attempted murder.


4 posted on 02/01/2006 8:29:41 AM PST by Mount Athos
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I saw it. The deputy should be shot. This was attempted murder. For anyone who thinks that police are always right, take a look at the video. You will be enlightened.


5 posted on 02/01/2006 8:30:43 AM PST by badbass
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The audio is very bad on the tape. I think the Sheriff's deputy was telling him "Don't get up" not "get up". An analyst on KTLA watched the video several times and couldn't tell exactly what the deputy was saying but it doesn't make sense to anyone that he said "get up" when he had two perps and backup was coming. Interesting how the MSM plays up the point the man shot was a soldier. How was the deputy to know? He was in a car chased at over 100mph and in civilian clothes.
6 posted on 02/01/2006 8:31:43 AM PST by Ben Mugged (Television is the most perfect democracy, You sit there with your remote control and vote")
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The conversation is a little garbled as the reporter isn't keeping his mouth shut, so you can hear what is being said, but you clearly hear the soldier being told to get up and the soldier indicating he is getting up...and then 4 shots fired.

The homicide unit is investigating...


7 posted on 02/01/2006 8:32:29 AM PST by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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the video is unreal. but you see this type of thing on other police video - they seem to want to play "twister" with people at traffic stops. hands on your head, hands down, sit down, stand up, lie down. you just don't know what to do, and this cop blew this kid away.


8 posted on 02/01/2006 8:32:32 AM PST by oceanview
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Yeah - this is a BAD shoot. No excuse for it.


10 posted on 02/01/2006 8:34:35 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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I saw it on local news this morning and the video appeared much clearer that this one.

Perhaps I saw an enhanced version. Either way it looks like this cop might be going to jail.
11 posted on 02/01/2006 8:34:52 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Learn from the past, don't live in it.)
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Anyone who reads these police threads knows that I am definitely pro-cop. That said, if this story is correct, the Deputy needs to be fired and arrested.


12 posted on 02/01/2006 8:34:52 AM PST by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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It was one of the most chilling videos I have ever seen. I'd place it up there with the Nick Berg video for its sheer shock effect.

That deputy should be thrown in the darkest, deepest cell we have.


16 posted on 02/01/2006 8:36:54 AM PST by g_suvorov
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It would be helpful to hear the whole dialog. Reporters talked over the important verbal exchanges prior to the shooting.


20 posted on 02/01/2006 8:38:11 AM PST by RGSpincich
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Unless I'm missing something here,it looks like the cop is gonna be doing some jail time and the kid is in for a pretty big payday.


23 posted on 02/01/2006 8:40:13 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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bttt for later read.


25 posted on 02/01/2006 8:41:23 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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I had to watch the video twice. But, the second time, it was clear he was told to "get up" and then he was shot. He's lucky there was someone with a video camera nearby.


27 posted on 02/01/2006 8:41:50 AM PST by Tired of Taxes
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Sounds like the LEO was enraged that someone would DARE to try to evade him and totally lost control of himself. Take him off the police force and never let him carry a gun again.


33 posted on 02/01/2006 8:46:55 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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Worse than I thought it was going to be. Sure hope that deputy does time.


34 posted on 02/01/2006 8:47:13 AM PST by houeto (Mr. President, close our borders now!)
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I'm usually on the side of the police but this is as clear as day that there was zero justification for the shooting. No threat, pure attempted murder.
36 posted on 02/01/2006 8:48:20 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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I am a retired cop, having worked every kind of case imaginable. I know the video doesn't tell the entire story for this incident, but I'd have to say the Deputy sure appears wrong in shooting the guy.

The kid clearly tells the Deputy, he "means you know harm", he tells him he's on the Deputy's side and is military. The Deputy clearly tell the kid to "get up" twice. The kid responds twice he is getting up. Then the Deputy shoots him.

For a fact, althought there are some unbelievers out and about, most cops will call them like they see them. When they are involved and the liability is heavy they are not going to say much of anything about an incident. They have that crammed into them in the academy and by police lawyers all thru their careers. Use the 5th Amendment and Miranda as the more you say the more something will come back to haunt you, even if you haven't done anything wrong.

But this video is pretty damning and I'd say this Deputy had way too much adrenalin pumping and wasn't thinking. Still I'd want to know the whole story and interview everyone involved before a final call is made. Afterall, all of the details have to come out, no matter if the Deputy bites it on this shooting. Such a shame for everyone involved.

38 posted on 02/01/2006 8:49:47 AM PST by Tactical
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What's the standard line? "I thought the perp was reaching for a weapon!"


39 posted on 02/01/2006 8:49:55 AM PST by Wolfie
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