Posted on 02/01/2006 8:26:30 AM PST by Smogger
CHINO, Calif. - A videotape released Tuesday shows a sheriff’s deputy shooting an unarmed Air Force policeman who recently returned from Iraq as he appeared to obey an order to get up off the ground.
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'Get up' Carrion is heard telling the officer he is unarmed and is in the military.
At one point, a voice is heard saying several times: “Get up.”
Carrion says: “I’m gonna get up.” As he rises, at least four shots are fired and Carrion collapses, crying out in pain.
“Shots fired! Shots fired!” someone shouts.
In a telephone interview conducted in Spanish, Valdez said after the shooting, Carrion asks the deputy, “Why did you shoot me if you told me to stand up?” That alleged exchange cannot be heard on the video.
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I can promise you there will be some of the boot-int-the-face crowd that will defend this and dispute any accusation of wrongdoing.
With no video, the soldier would have little legal recourse.
" Take him off the police force and never let him carry a gun again."
That is pretty tough punishment. Do you think I can get similar treatment for losing my temper and putting 4 rounds in a person I had never seen in my life until the event?
"The perp in this case (the deputy) shouldn't be allowed to have a drivers license, much less be sanctioned to carry a gun in the name of the law."
You mean that is what they will do to me if I take 4 shots at an unarmed person obeying my orders and only hit 3 without killing?
"I see the case going to Federal court for prosecution of the Deputy for a Civil Rights violation."
Lenient. BTW, what do you do different from the target in this case if a cop tells you to get up?
WAS there a 100mph chase? Is there video? It is to be assumed the cop was going to lie about the circumstances of the shooting, so the circumstances of the stop might very well be fabrication.
then, when the kid tried to get up and the deputy shot him, the deputy says, "you don't get up!"
the cop seems to be totally fried and was running on adrenaline. which is understandable after a 100mph chase. why was this kid in the chase in the first place? tough to be on someones side after you have been speeding away from them at 100mph. but he did not deserve to be shot.
Given the double bind, the less risky option would be to freeze in a visibly harmless position and ask "I can't understand you, what did you say," slowly, two or three times. But no way there should be a legal requirement to guess your way to safety.
You'd have to ask the driver, the Airman was the passenger, just "along for the ride" so to speak.
Thinking doubtless "I did nothing wrong, I have nothing to fear." Bzzzzzzt!
You can say that again.
There is a group here that will always defend LEOs regardless.
I can't see why the deputy shot the guy....looked like several times.
I clearly heard someone saying get up before the guy started to get up and got shot.
Reminds me of that crazy woman cop misfiring her gun....we had that video around here somewhere.
I support the police but they make mistakes and this looks like one. I see nothing racial about this though the MSM thinks otherwise.
YUP! It is.
Lenient. BTW, what do you do different from the target in this case if a cop tells you to get up?
From what I've read the FBI is looking at the case and if the Feds prosecute, there isn't going to be anything lenient about it at all. Big blocks of time in custody with the Feds and other civil penalties that will ruin the cops life if convicted.
The kid that was shot appears to have done everything right, up to the point of following the Deputy's instructions to "get up". From that point on, it was out of his control.
I would like to see the entire video though, as to how the kid was acting prior to being put on the ground. Who knows what he was doing? Still doesn't look good for the Deputy at this point.
Does your title mean that this links to the video mentioned in the story? Because I don't see it anywhere.
Dan
... maybe I'll wait for the "America's Most Wanted" re-enactment.
I'll bet the Deputy here didn't know he was being filmed.
Which, exactly, of those behaviors rises to the level of requiring the officer to use deadly force to stop said behavior?
The purpose of using deadly force of any variety is to stop the behavior that the suspect is engaging in. That is the SOLE purpose of deadly force for a law enforcement officer, or a private citizen for that matter.
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