Deputy shoots airman after 100-mph chase (w/video)

MSNBC ^ | 9:42 a.m. ET Feb. 1, 2006 | AP

[WoofDog123]

I can promise you there will be some of the boot-int-the-face crowd that will defend this and dispute any accusation of wrongdoing.

With no video, the soldier would have little legal recourse.

[WoofDog123]

" Take him off the police force and never let him carry a gun again."

That is pretty tough punishment. Do you think I can get similar treatment for losing my temper and putting 4 rounds in a person I had never seen in my life until the event?

[WoofDog123]

"The perp in this case (the deputy) shouldn't be allowed to have a drivers license, much less be sanctioned to carry a gun in the name of the law."

You mean that is what they will do to me if I take 4 shots at an unarmed person obeying my orders and only hit 3 without killing?

[WoofDog123]

"I see the case going to Federal court for prosecution of the Deputy for a Civil Rights violation."

Lenient. BTW, what do you do different from the target in this case if a cop tells you to get up?

[djf]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1569430/posts?page=193#193

[WoofDog123]

WAS there a 100mph chase? Is there video? It is to be assumed the cop was going to lie about the circumstances of the shooting, so the circumstances of the stop might very well be fabrication.

[thefactor]

IMHO, the cop had severe tunnel vision. he was saying, "get up!"

then, when the kid tried to get up and the deputy shot him, the deputy says, "you don't get up!"

the cop seems to be totally fried and was running on adrenaline. which is understandable after a 100mph chase. why was this kid in the chase in the first place? tough to be on someones side after you have been speeding away from them at 100mph. but he did not deserve to be shot.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Given the double bind, the less risky option would be to freeze in a visibly harmless position and ask "I can't understand you, what did you say," slowly, two or three times. But no way there should be a legal requirement to guess your way to safety.

[El Gato]

why was this kid in the chase in the first place? tough to be on someones side after you have been speeding away from them at 100mph. but he did not deserve to be shot.

You'd have to ask the driver, the Airman was the passenger, just "along for the ride" so to speak.

[The Red Zone]

Thinking doubtless "I did nothing wrong, I have nothing to fear." Bzzzzzzt!

[wardaddy]

You can say that again.

There is a group here that will always defend LEOs regardless.

I can't see why the deputy shot the guy....looked like several times.

I clearly heard someone saying get up before the guy started to get up and got shot.

Reminds me of that crazy woman cop misfiring her gun....we had that video around here somewhere.

I support the police but they make mistakes and this looks like one. I see nothing racial about this though the MSM thinks otherwise.

[Tactical]

Four shots fired? At close range?
Ridiculous..........

YUP! It is.

[Tactical]

"I see the case going to Federal court for prosecution of the Deputy for a Civil Rights violation."

Lenient. BTW, what do you do different from the target in this case if a cop tells you to get up?

From what I've read the FBI is looking at the case and if the Feds prosecute, there isn't going to be anything lenient about it at all. Big blocks of time in custody with the Feds and other civil penalties that will ruin the cops life if convicted.

The kid that was shot appears to have done everything right, up to the point of following the Deputy's instructions to "get up". From that point on, it was out of his control.

I would like to see the entire video though, as to how the kid was acting prior to being put on the ground. Who knows what he was doing? Still doesn't look good for the Deputy at this point.

[BibChr]

Does your title mean that this links to the video mentioned in the story? Because I don't see it anywhere.

Dan

[bimbo]

Watch the video.

... maybe I'll wait for the "America's Most Wanted" re-enactment.

[OKIEDOC]

Ben Mugged wrote:
I guess he could have been sitting at the side of the road thinking "the next Corvette that comes by at 100mph I'm going to chase it down and shoot the passenger".

REPLY:

That sounds as plausible as any excuse cops use to kill or maim their prey, err, victim, err perp.........

Until robots take over their will always be the human element to police brutality.

When did it become OK to shoot to kill just because someone didn't instantly obey an insane cops command.

[bimbo]

I watch "Cops" on court teevee once or twice a week. In easily 75% of the arrests they make of a previously fleeing perp (knowing full well that the cameras are running) they continue to beat on the perp well after he is subdued and/or cooperating. The same is true for most live telecasts of car-chases.

I'll bet the Deputy here didn't know he was being filmed.

[Terabitten]

A. He would not shut his mouth. B. I never heard anyone tell him get up. C. You do not tell the police what you are gonna do...you obey what they say do.

Which, exactly, of those behaviors rises to the level of requiring the officer to use deadly force to stop said behavior?

[Terabitten]

Having said all that, it seems like a situation where the cop should have used phyisical restraint rather than deadly force. Can LEO Freepers comment on that?

The purpose of using deadly force of any variety is to stop the behavior that the suspect is engaging in. That is the SOLE purpose of deadly force for a law enforcement officer, or a private citizen for that matter.

[OKIEDOC]

hispanarepublicana wrote:
Ruiz said he immediately turned a tape over to the Sheriff's Department after the incident, but he has retained an attorney because of incidents that have happened since then. Luis Carrillo, a South Pasadena attorney, said he's helping Ruiz to make sure his rights are not violated. Carrillo said over a 12-hour period after the video tape was handed over to deputies, Ruiz was pulled over three times by officers. "His whole vehicle gets searched. It was totally unnecessary," Carrillo said. Staff writer Wendy Leung contributed to this story.

REPLY:

This is not a brown or black thing it is about police over stepping their authority.

These pull overs by the cops is an attempt to intimidate this guy into doing anything so that the cops can retaliate.

Bad cops and some good cops ignorantly hang together to misguidedly protect one of their own.

If I was Ruiz I would be very careful when away from his home.

There is no protection for civilians when rogue cops come to get you.