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Danger Zone - (Haleigh Poutre)
National Review ^ | February 01, 2006 | Wesley J, Smith

Posted on 02/01/2006 7:29:10 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida

In the court (and courts) of life and death, a little 11-year-old Massachusetts girl named Haleigh Poutre could be the next Terri Schiavo. For those who have not heard the tragic story, Haleigh was beaten nearly to death last September, allegedly by her adoptive mother and stepfather. The beating left her unconscious and barely clinging to life.

Within a week or so of the beating, her doctors had written her off. They apparently told Haleigh's court-appointed guardian, Harry Spence, that she was "virtually brain dead." Even though he had never visited her, Spence quickly went to court seeking permission to remove her respirator and feeding tube. The court agreed, a decision affirmed recently by the supreme court of Massachusetts.

And so, no doubt with the best of intentions, a little girl who had already suffered so much was stripped by the Commonwealth of Massachusetts of even the chance to fight to stay alive. If she didn't stop breathing when the respirator was removed, which doctors expected, she would slowly dehydrate to death.

Close Call

Then came the unexpected:

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: childabuse; dehydratnfla; dontfeedtrolls; euthanasia; flstarvestate; gallagher4guv; haileypoutre; haleighpoutre; justicevseuthanasia; massachusetts; starvnfla; stopflmurders; tedstith; terridailies; terridailiesfeb; terrischiavo; terrischindler; wesleyjsmith
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To: pickyourpoison

Remember that South Dakota kicked Daschle out of the Senate too. They are smart up there.


761 posted on 02/11/2006 12:59:20 PM PST by floriduh voter (IMPEACH JUDGE GREER...Call Jeb Bush at 1-850-488-4441 and demand justice)
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To: pickyourpoison

I have a message to the Supreme Court. Breyer or Stevens, your honors, PLEASE RETIRE. How's that?


762 posted on 02/11/2006 1:00:12 PM PST by floriduh voter (IMPEACH JUDGE GREER...Call Jeb Bush at 1-850-488-4441 and demand justice)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

changing tag line time.


763 posted on 02/11/2006 1:03:19 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: 8mmMauser
Terri's Final Hours here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/~floriduhvoter/

764 posted on 02/11/2006 1:07:19 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: floriduh voter

" have a message to the Supreme Court. Breyer or Stevens, your honors, PLEASE RETIRE. How's that?'

What's that womans name..Ginsberg? She needs to go too. I've heard her health is bad. I suppose she's holding out for a Democrat Pres.


765 posted on 02/11/2006 1:14:25 PM PST by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: pickyourpoison

Ruth Bader Ginsberg, clinton appointee but remember that bubba is their brother now.


766 posted on 02/11/2006 1:15:53 PM PST by floriduh voter (http://www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: Raquel

Ping to 743!!


767 posted on 02/11/2006 1:23:47 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: floriduh voter
Someone stated that she recently again heard in the media that "Terri expressed a desire to die." This is misinformation that apparently still is circulated by the media.

There is no evidence, and never has been, that Terri wanted to die. How many people would choose to die a barbaric death by dehydration?

768 posted on 02/11/2006 1:30:46 PM PST by Dante3
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To: 8mmMauser

I missed the case of Tirhas Habtegiris until you pointed it out. Ronald Bailey makes the incorrect asssumption that right-wingers didn't care, if I am but one example. This culture of death is every where.


769 posted on 02/11/2006 1:51:11 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: 8mmMauser

Thanks for the link on the PAC for Terri. I especially liked the following paragraph:

"We'll match 'TerriPAC' dollar for dollar, ad for ad if we have to," Greene told the Cybercast News Service. "We cannot simply sit by and allow solid, pro-life politicians to be targeted by the pro-death forces."


770 posted on 02/11/2006 1:52:27 PM PST by Pepper777
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To: floriduh voter
>> Breyer or Stevens, PLEASE RETIRE

Let me help you with the wording. Breyer AND Stevens, PLEASE RETIRE IMMEDIATELY.

771 posted on 02/11/2006 1:54:01 PM PST by T'wit (Liberals called our Vietnam troops baby killers. They've since sponsored 45 million abortions.)
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To: BykrBayb

Good observation!


772 posted on 02/11/2006 1:54:01 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: 8mmMauser

I don't have insurance. I don't have any money, either. Guess I'm up shit creek....


773 posted on 02/11/2006 3:23:11 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Support the fence....grow a Victory Garden!)
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To: BykrBayb
BUMP to #756 Junior and Haleigh's birthdays both on Feb. 24.

I caught only a fragment of interview with Dantforth. I don't know if I heard right - but did he slam the Republicans for supporting Terri? Maybe I heard it out of context.

774 posted on 02/11/2006 4:27:39 PM PST by Dante3
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To: 8mmMauser

The photo of little junior, just breaks my heart. My prayers for his recovery are with him and his family.

Regarding your post #746 - the 27 year old woman in Texas, who was forced to die this past December. I do NOT like what is happening in Texas. From the link you posted, I ended up reading a message board of mostly Bush haters, who for the most called pro-life people, hypocrites. Apparently Bush signed the law in 1999, when he was the governor of Texas. The posts were full of propaganda about Terri's condition, as is the case in the majority of MSM reports.

Their main issue was the lack of voices coming from the people who fought to save Terri. I have no idea if what they are saying is true or not. I do not remember hearing about the case previously. I would think the majority of people who fought to save Terri, would be just as outraged by what was done to Tirhas Habtegiris. I doubt one could even begin to imagaine the horror Tirhas and her family went through as they watched them turn off the machine. Talk about cruel and unusual punishment. It was not her wish or desire to die, but it happened regardless. So much for choice and rights.


775 posted on 02/11/2006 5:07:25 PM PST by Pepper777
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To: floriduh voter

**South Dakota criminalizes abortion. I hope they criminalize murderous courts and medical providers who starve and dehydrate innocents to death who had no wishes or maybe those w/a Living Will who changed their mind but the torture is not halted! **

I hope so too, FV. It's horrible to realize how insane things have become. I think the media coverage during Terri's torture, was basically to call attention to living wills. Those who push them have an agenda and it's not to help the person who gets one. Most people have no idea just how dangerous they are. DNR means exactly that - Do NOT rescue - no treatment. How far are they going to go in defining treatment? Who would have every thought Food and Water would be defined as medical treatment? What's next - penicillan? I'm sure most will remember Schiavo wanted to DENY antibiotics to Terri early on, but was stopped by the hospital.

And then when you consider the case of Mr Stith, who had a stroke, but instead of being treated for the stroke, he was sent to the death camp (hospice), to be DENIED water, until he died, even though he expressed a desire to live.

This whole issue is not about anyone rights. That's total BS. When will America wake up and realize the agenda is FORCED EXIT?


776 posted on 02/11/2006 5:10:32 PM PST by Pepper777
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To: Dante3

**I caught only a fragment of interview with Dantforth. I don't know if I heard right - but did he slam the Republicans for supporting Terri? Maybe I heard it out of context.**

Are you speaking of the Dantforth that did President Reagan's funeral? If so, I've heard him bash Republicans before for supporting Terri. Therefore, I doubt you heard it out of context. He was very clear in the past, about supporting Terri's death.


777 posted on 02/11/2006 5:16:07 PM PST by Pepper777
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To: T'wit
Dr. Hammesfahr's experience with her must have been rewarding.

Remember when he put the q-tip thing in Terri's mouth? Dr. Hammesfahr said she wouldn't smile at him any more that day!

778 posted on 02/11/2006 6:12:42 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779
Fun! I had quite forgotten that, so went back to reread Dr. Hammesfahr's testimony about his examinations. Here it is -- he was testing to see if she could feel pain (answer, yes: all over her body).

"On the face, noxious stimulation including cotton swab up the nose and gag sensation and papillary touch with cotton evidenced a pain response. These were more than just reflexes, as she appeared to be annoyed by these painful responses long after they had stopped, and would not smile at me again for the rest of the day."

Interestingly enough, MS was present and paying close attention. He would soon after claim that she could feel no pain when he had her put to an agonizing death. That could not have been mere error on his part. He knew it was a lie.

779 posted on 02/11/2006 9:20:05 PM PST by T'wit (Liberals called our Vietnam troops baby killers. They've since sponsored 45 million abortions.)
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To: bjs1779
Dr. Hammesfahr's general impression, based on his own and Dr. Maxfield's examinations. Why didn't we see this in the press?

"Impression:

"The patient is not in coma.

"She is alert and responsive to her environment. She responds to specific people best. She tries to please others by doing activities for which she gets verbal praise. She responds negatively to poor tone of voice. She responds to music.

"She differentiates sounds from voices.

"She differentiates specific people's voices from others.

"She differentiates music from stray sound.

"She attempts to verbalize.

"She has voluntary control over multiple extremities

"She can swallow.

"She is partially blind

"She is probably aphasic and has a degree of receptive aphasia.

"She can feel pain.

"On this last point, it is interesting to observe that the records from Hospice show frequent medication administered for pain by staff."

780 posted on 02/11/2006 9:29:23 PM PST by T'wit (Liberals called our Vietnam troops baby killers. They've since sponsored 45 million abortions.)
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