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National Review ^ | February 01, 2006 | Wesley J, Smith

Posted on 02/01/2006 7:29:10 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida

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To: 8mmMauser

Why do they gag her? So she can't tell the truth about -- them. Thus do the bureaucrats cover their merciless, miserable butts.


701 posted on 02/10/2006 5:41:19 AM PST by T'wit (Martyr applicants: You will have only 72 virgins to last for all eternity. Deflower sparingly.)
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To: Dante3
To shut her up. There can be no other reason.

They are holding her child hostage so they are the Master, she is the Slave.

702 posted on 02/10/2006 5:47:50 AM PST by T'wit (Martyr applicants: You will have only 72 virgins to last for all eternity. Deflower sparingly.)
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To: Dante3

As a survivor of decades within bureaucracies, I see the self protection of a bureaucrat as the expected reaction.

(Not that there is anything wrong with bureaucrats......)

The first order of business for an ingrained bureaucrat is to protect him/herself and their environment. That is primal, meaning they protect themselves first at all costs they can imagine. They will do so in the face of such incredible evidence against them, it would embarrass a rat.

So the reaction is not specific to this situation, but to any where they try to protect themselves from their own screw-ups.


703 posted on 02/10/2006 6:09:11 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
Bioethicists should build a shrine to their patron saint, Dr. Josef Mengele, who was known as the Angel of Death. The likes of Professor Peter Singer and Drs. Jack Kevorkian and Ronald "Humane Death" Cranford follow doggedly in Mengele's footsteps. They will have not have an easy time catching up with their master -- witness:

Warning: horrible graphic scenes of Auschwitz.

Pioneer of Bioethics

704 posted on 02/10/2006 6:12:00 AM PST by T'wit (Martyr applicants: You will have only 72 virgins to last for all eternity. Deflower sparingly.)
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To: T'wit

We sailed past Auschwitz a few years back in the bone chilling dead of winter, on a bus bound for homes of relatives. Eerie. I still have the gold ring given me by one of the survivors, who became a Catholic priest afterwards. Many in the surrounding village of our relatives took their one way ticket to Auschwitz.

The death cult heritage carries on, more veiled, but of similar core, and closer than we might like to think.


705 posted on 02/10/2006 6:30:53 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
From a bio of Adolf Eichmann, who organized Nazi efforts to get Jews to emigrate before the war, and who later was responsible for shipping three million Jews to death camps. This snippet caught my eye:

It was Eichmann who organized the Wannsee Conference of January 1942, which focused on issues related to the "final solution of the Jewish question." From this point Eichmann assumed the leading role in the deportation of European Jews to the death camps, as well as in the plunder of their property.

Wasn't that about the same angle as Jim King's "legacy" legislation in Florida -- snuff the aged and plunder their property?

706 posted on 02/10/2006 6:47:56 AM PST by T'wit (Martyr applicants: You will have only 72 virgins to last for all eternity. Deflower sparingly.)
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To: 8mmMauser; All

Carrie Hutchens has it right. Suicide is still available to the masses who want to no longer live. Why does a doctor need to become involved? Anyone who is tired of living can just off themselves using one of the usual ways. They can take a handful of pills or point a gun at their brain and pull the trigger. Maybe they can close themselves up in a garage and turn on the car motor. Carbon monoxide poisoning can feel like going to sleep (at least that's what the miner's notes said). There's no need to change any laws. That way the people who do appreciate the value of life, even a disabled life, don't have to worry that they'll be the next one to go to the death chamber. Just my two cents.


707 posted on 02/10/2006 8:06:32 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: T'wit

What?? At the Pinellas Park Hospice and Transfer Station, they are making money on their processing of "clients"?

I remember while living in Germany in the '60's some friends showed us a one-way street facility, a very pituresque and ginger-bread building, very pleasant. Handicapped would go in, and come out the hard way. It was a processing plant with all the charm of a theme park. I am sure folks in the neighborhood saw it as benign at the time.


708 posted on 02/10/2006 8:11:26 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All

God bless Pamela! Reading her words is very freeing, much the same way as when I listen to Rush. Someone can actually express the way I think about these cases.

I thank God for Terri, because she gave me a wake-up call. I was snoozing before. I paid little to no attention to these issues before, and now I am very alert and aware of them. I guess you could say that I was in a persistent vegetative state or a minimally conscious state about the importance of these issues, but now I am cognizant of them.


709 posted on 02/10/2006 8:22:25 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: 8mmMauser

Hospice in Fla is paid $600 per day per patient. It would be cheaper for the state to put them up at the Ritz.


710 posted on 02/10/2006 8:59:02 AM PST by DadsGirl ("Come to Me all who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Jesus Christ)
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To: 8mmMauser; BykrBayb

I am starting to hate that site. I don't want to have to give out personal info to read pages two and three.

We should send cards. However, imo, we should refrain from sending stuffed animals, balloons, flowers, cute pyjamas(I have a new sewing machine, and I'm going to make nice jammies for all the girls), or whatever will clutter up Haleigh's room. Cards are probably sufficient. Got address?

Does anyone know if the child can swallow food yet? I'm thinking about birthday cake and ice cream.

Social Services is sometimes a collection of brain dead idiots. It is no wonder that the first thought would be to CYA, when a child is damn near killed....after HOW MANY CALLS TO THEIR AGENCY?????


711 posted on 02/10/2006 9:08:31 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Support the fence....grow a Victory Garden!)
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To: 8mmMauser
Avrett, 29, lost custody of her daughter in 1999, when Haleigh was 4, after Avrett’s half-sister, Holli Strickland, told DSS that Avrett’s boyfriend at the time had sexually abused the child. The charges were never substantiated. Strickland later adopted Haleigh. She was arrested last September with her husband, Jason, on charges of nearly killing the girl. Strickland was later found dead in an apparent murder-suicide with her grandmother, Constance Young.

Tells me everything I need to know.

712 posted on 02/10/2006 9:41:32 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Support the fence....grow a Victory Garden!)
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To: DadsGirl

Hey, that's not a bad idea! I bet the Ritz would provide better 'comfort care' than some hospices!


713 posted on 02/10/2006 10:13:00 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
I am starting to hate that site. I don't want to have to give out personal info to read pages two and three.

I also dislike the sites where you have to register with them, but at least you can use bugmenot.com to get past that for most of them.

714 posted on 02/10/2006 10:15:30 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Any update on her condition?


715 posted on 02/10/2006 10:17:18 AM PST by Raquel (Please pray for the end of abortion.)
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To: Raquel

Not much. If you go the last few posts on this thread we've been pinged to other articles. It doesn't sound like DSS wants there to be any new information about Haleigh's condition being reported on. Haleigh's biological mother is frustrated because she wants to talk about Haleigh's condition, but they (DSS) have threatened her that they will not let her see Haleigh any more if she says what she knows. Hopefully, they will reconsider this, but it doesn't look good right now.


716 posted on 02/10/2006 10:34:24 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Thank you very much. Please keep me posted and on your ping list.


717 posted on 02/10/2006 12:30:29 PM PST by Raquel (Please pray for the end of abortion.)
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To: Raquel; 8mmMauser; cgk
I'm not really keeping a ping list, but 8mm Mauser could add you to the Terri list if you'd like. Or maybe cgk's ping list would be better. Whichever suits you. I don't think there's been one established specifically for Haleigh if that's what you're looking for.
718 posted on 02/10/2006 12:53:23 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: 8mmMauser; All
Impeach Judge Greer Petition total to date: 41600

Petition is in the middle of www.conservative-spirit.org. Click on "Impeach Judge Greer".

719 posted on 02/10/2006 1:07:30 PM PST by floriduh voter (IMPEACH JUDGE GREER...Call Jeb Bush at 1-850-488-4441 and demand justice)
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To: Lesforlife; amdgmary
South Dakota House passes ban on abortion. I bet they'll follow with a ban on starving/dehydration disabled people too. All the relatives up there were APPALLED BY THE MURDER OF TERRI SCHIAVO by the state for a cheating spouse.

http://www.keloland.com/NewsDetail2817.cfm?Id=0,45916

720 posted on 02/10/2006 1:10:52 PM PST by floriduh voter (IMPEACH JUDGE GREER...Call Jeb Bush at 1-850-488-4441 and demand justice)
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