Posted on 02/01/2006 6:09:12 AM PST by OXENinFLA
Since "Free Republic is an online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America.", I and others think it's a good idea to centralize what the goes on in the Senate (or House).
So if you see something happening on the Senate/House floor and you don't want to start a new thread to ask if anyone else just heard what you heard, you can leave a short note on who said what and about what and I'll try and find it the next day in THE RECORD. Or if you see a thread that pertains to the Senate, House, or pretty much any GOV'T agency please link your thread here.
If you have any suggestions for this thread please feel free to let me know.
Here's a few helpful links.
C-SPAN what a great thing. Where you can watch or listen live to most Government happenings.
C-SPAN 1 carries the HOUSE.
C-SPAN 2 carries the SENATE.
C-SPAN 3 (most places web only) carries a variety of committee meetings live or other past programming.
OR FEDNET has online feed also.
A great thing about our Government is they make it really easy for the public to research what the Politicians are doing and saying (on the floor anyway).
THOMAS where you can see a RECORD of what Congress is doing each day. You can also search/read a verbatim text of what each Congressmen/women or Senator has said on the floor or submitted 'for the record.' [This is where the real juicy stuff can be found.]
Also found at Thomas are Monthly Calendars for the Senate Majority and Senate Minority
And Monthly Calendars for the House Majority and Roll Call Votes can be found here.
THE WAR DEPARTMENT (aka The Dept. of Defense)
Thanks....I just love this guy!!!
i'm on the phone ... can ya take notes for me?
Why on earth would the FISA court determine constitutionality of the NSA program? Is that just a step in the chain to the Supreme Court?
Sorry...just got this message...I am babysitting..and was away from the computer...
I think Specter is trying to introduce a measure of inter-branch oversight that is not present when the administration engages in self-oversight.
I think the reason he proposes for FISA to have exclusive power do that is out of acknowledgement of the FISA court's demonstrated ability to keep factual details secret. It is not a stepping stone on the way to SCOTUS.
It is interesting too, that he offers this venue for "objective third party review," instead of Congress. Congress would not get the factual details.
Let's throw Specter under the bus for this idea, shall we?
I am assuming this is Specter's way of acknowledging that Congress cannot keep secrets...and since a lot of the Congresscritters are insisting on Bush enforcing the rule that requires that ALL intelligence committee members get briefed, not just the 8 that had been....
what would be any other option for oversight...but, I had heard that FISA is overloaded and hasn't been able to keep up.
Sounds like it is a good thing that Sen. Coburn is in the Senate and on the judiciary committee...
He is really breaking down the pros/cons of this legislation...and the medical problems involved...
Well, I think I just learned more from Senator Coburn than from everyone else who has talked about this issue. Would that there were more intelligent non-politicians who would undertake public service from time to time.
I was fascinated by what he was saying...and I understood it...LOL..
I also liked that he told everyone to either get serious about this...or move to something else.
He doesn't hesitate to speak his mind, and I read a few weeks ago that he is determined to object to any pork he w feels is added to a bill...which should make for some interesting debates.
There are lots of options, ranging from the administration telling its detractors to get lost, to full public disclosure of the policy, and everything in between.
How to handle it now should be determined with an eye on how the intelligence data is intended to be put into use and action.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1572671/posts?page=2456#2456 and your response, "Re: what you posted...I will have to think on that a get back with you."
Okay...on that post you pointed me to....you asked about any terroists on the domestic end...what should happen to them if caught...
Treat them like Padilla, oh wait, I forget what his status is now..it seems to change all the time..LOL
Seriesly..I say treat them as terrorists caught elsewhere...arrest them as enemy combatants...if they are American citizens..then they will have certain rights that non-citizens don't, but, I wouldn't punish them less hard.
BTW...as you have realized...I am totally ignorant of most thing "legal" in the sense of knowing the statutes and even the certain rights...I am trying to educate myself..
I appreciate your patience with me...I really do.
I'm not sure how to take that. Are you implying that I want to throw him under the bus?
Sounds like we're in same boat with kids taking up our freep time *L*
Yeppers...Chase has just started walking and boy is she keeping ME running!! LOL
BTW..I heard that C-span is showing some kind of dinner tonight where Cheney and Sen. George Allen will be speakers..FYI
No, not you, personally. Just a reflection on the tenor of most of the posts on this thread.
I'd throw him under the bus, FWIW, but not for his stance on this. I didn't like his opposition to Lindey Graham's amendment to change the jurisdiction statute in light of Rasul v. Bush, 542 US 466 (2004), and I wish he'd move Saad, Kavanaugh and Haynes out of the Judiciary Committee.
There is quite a range of "treatments," depending on where a person is caught, what was going on at the time, etc. There is a process that plays out in between "I think you might be a bad guy" and "sentencing." On the battlefield, the process might be brief, carry no words, and result in summary execution. At the other end of the spectrum, there is a trial with evidence being public, and a jury deciding the case. There are many possible variations in between, involving military tribunals, access to evidence (or not), ability to cross examine witnesses (or not), etc.
I don't have the answers either, but a simple "this surveillance is a-ok" without explaining how the evidence is USED is less than a complete picture.
Wow!
If you're listing to the C-span caller right now you know why I said WOW.
Moonbat alert.
WHy is she talking about Ashcroft,,,,,
I was listening early but then switched over to Rush/Roger
They were talking about why the DNC is so angry on cspan2
I hate that this man is my Senator..........
It's gonna be so fun to help get him unelected.
I KNEW, when Domenici stood up the other day with his offshore drilling bill..that this idiot would get up and complain.
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