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ABC NOW FEARING A MASS TUNEOUT (The Brokeback Oscars Effect)
NY Post ^ | 2/1/06 | DON KAPLAN

Posted on 02/01/2006 2:38:50 AM PST by jimbo123

"Brokeback Mountain" and a slew of other arty, less-widely seen Oscar-nominated flicks are expected to take the polish off ABC's ratings for the Academy Awards this year.

With no big-budget films like "Titanic," "Gladiator" or "Lord of the Rings: Return of the King" in this season's crop of nominees, ABC may be staring down the barrel of one of the lowest-rated Oscar telecasts in recent memory when it airs on March 5, say TV-industry analysts.

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To: zipper

they're really packin' 'em in down at our local theater...
...bending over backwards to get in?


141 posted on 02/01/2006 6:55:43 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody got a peanut.....)
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To: dangus

That's not what the movie is about, but then, I think only one of us actually SAW it. ;)


142 posted on 02/01/2006 6:57:28 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: jimbo123

They're still handing out Oscars? Where have I been?


143 posted on 02/01/2006 7:01:51 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Did Narnia receive any nominations?


144 posted on 02/01/2006 7:02:09 AM PST by Sensei Ern (Now, IB4Z! http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy/ "Cowards cut and run. Heroes never do!")
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To: shadeaud
I went to see it yesterday in Arlington to see if there was any artistic, storytelling, cinematic or other merit to the film beyond its clearly propagandistic themes.

There were less than 10 people in the theater for the 5:05 showing. Movie sucks on so many levels I hardly no where to start.

The story line can be taken very differently, in my opinion, than the propagandists might think. One could make the case that the protagonist of the film, Ennis Dela Mar (Heath Ledger), was lured into experimenting with homosexuality in the summer of 1963 when he was young and apparently still a virgin (if you pay close attention to the dialogue).

Ennis was drunk and freezing outside the tent and was invited into the tent to sleep next to Jack Twist (Jake Gyllenhaal), who did the seducing.

The ensuing relationship ultimately led to the ruination of Ennis's life. After their summer on Brokeback Mountain herding sheep, Ennis went on to get married and have a family (2 daughters). He seemed happily married and loved his family. Four years later (1968)Jack Twist shows up from Texas (now married) and throws a wrench into Ennis world. Then begins the regular fishing trips between Ennis and Jack (3 times a year)

Ennis does not seem the least bit interested in pursuing a life of homosexuality outside this single relationship. After his wife dumped him, having figured out about his relationship with Jack Twist, Ennis has an affair with a woman for awhile.

Doomed to paying child support he lived a financially marginal life. He did not seem to mind paying child support and demonstrated great affection for his two girls, especially one of his daughters, the one he called "junior". He seemed prepared to go back to his wife. It was she who refused his return, although one time she seemed on the verge of taking him back.

To me one of the most tellings lines was when Ennis told Jack "You did this to me." This was near the end when told Jack he could not arrange one of the fishing expeditions for August and would have to wait until November because he could not get off from his job. He had quit jobs in the past in order to be with Jack. Jack throws a scene about wanting the two of them to live together and run a ranch and be happy. It was the last time the two were together. When Jack does not show up in November, Ennis calls his wife and learns that Jack died in an "accident" with one of the big pieces of farm equipment he sold, and the tire than blew out and the rim crushed his face. This was a lie, as Jack had been being beaten to death. We later learn Jack's father that Jack had taken up with the husband of a woman who was his wife's close friend. The husband and Jack were planning to go back to Wyoming to work Jack's parents ranch. We also learn that Jack had taken trips to Mexico to have sex with Mexican male prostitutes.

I think the movie makes it clear that Ennis loved Jack but then tries to exploit that love for propaganda purposes. The gay propagandists will say this is what happens when people are not permitted to live out the life they want to lead because of intolerance. Or it proves the enduring power of love.

Ennis seems to be in the most pain when he visits Jack's parents at the end and offers to take some of Jack's ashes to Brokeback Mountain, as Jack wished. Jack's mother shows him Jack's room. There he finds a bloody shirt that was bloodied during a final fight between the 2 and he takes it home. Jack's father refuses to give him the ashes and says he will bury them in the family burial plot.

There is a ray of hope at the end when Jack's daughter comes to visit him in a trailer and tells him she is getting matter. His very fatherly treatment of her was quite touching. He agrees to go to the wedding even if it means he will have to quit his job. Both father and daughter are very close and loving in this moment and this love is the only love in Ennis life that is not destructive. There's a clear lesson here that is not really developed.

Ham-fisted scenes are thrown in to reinforce a theme of homosexuals being persecuted and killed. Ennis as a boy was shown a dead homosexual by his father.The man was lying in a ditch after having been killed by hooligans after being dragged by his penis.

Yet, for me, the real message in this flawed attempt at propaganda is that those who succumb to homosexuality are doomed to a life of unhappiness, sorrow and tragedy. Further, a man who would otherwise have led a straight life is lured into a homosexual relationship and his entire life is desroyed as a result.

I think one of the reviewers who panned the film tried to make the same point -- that this was a tragedy about seduction into sin. Curiously, early in the movie the two young men talk about sin and forgiveness as they watched the stars on Brokeback Mountain. Ennis said he had never sinned, referring it would seem to the fact he was still a virgin.

I didn't start out to write all this stuff, but I just felt like I wanted to say something after seeing the movie. It was disturbing, to say the least.

145 posted on 02/01/2006 7:06:13 AM PST by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free.)
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To: mel

Most have very private views which they keep to themselves. The parties I mentioned were hosted by name producers and directors. One even was called to D.C. to coach Clinton on dealing with admitting and apologizing.


146 posted on 02/01/2006 7:08:14 AM PST by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: Hardastarboard
As far as I'm concerned, Hollyweird can stick Brokeback Mountain up their . .

Just one minute here!. Hollyweird doens't take a back seat to anyone.

147 posted on 02/01/2006 7:11:26 AM PST by ExtremeUnction
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To: SkyPilot

her gushing acceptance speech is one of the best known of its kind. In it she stated "I haven't had an orthodox career, and I've wanted more than anything to have your respect. The first time I didn't feel it, but this time I feel it, and I can't deny the fact that you like me, right now, you like me!" [1]. The line ending in "...I can't deny the fact that you like me, right now, you like me!" is often misremembered as simply "You like me, you really like me!" which has subsequently been the subject of many parodies.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Field

This has always stuck with the as the true face of the Oscars.


148 posted on 02/01/2006 7:12:28 AM PST by razorback-bert
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To: jimbo123

When I was young we never missed the Oscars. I stopped back when they started to get deviant leftist.

Most people tune in for one thing - to see the the garments. However, I found the FR live thread last year and it was so much more fun.

Freepers are great at posting pics and they are far funnier than Joan and Melissa.


149 posted on 02/01/2006 7:12:50 AM PST by I still care (You don't demonstrate tolerance for minorities by apologising for your own heritage- John Howard)
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To: jimbo123

Who's ABC?


150 posted on 02/01/2006 7:13:43 AM PST by JZelle
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To: GBoettner

I will be watching Evil Dead, Evil Dead 2, and Army of Darkness.

BRUCE CAMPBELL RULES!


151 posted on 02/01/2006 7:18:09 AM PST by Sensei Ern (Now, IB4Z! http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy/ "Cowards cut and run. Heroes never do!")
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To: AFA-Michigan; AggieCPA; Agitate; Alexander Rubin; AliVeritas; AllTheRage; ...
Moral Absolutes & Homosexual Agenda Ping.

DISCUSSION ABOUT: ABC is worried that nobody will watch the Oscars due to the pro-homosexual theme

I know I will never watch the Oscars again (not that I have in years anyway).

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152 posted on 02/01/2006 7:22:24 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Sensei Ern

A man with the same tastes as my hubby!


153 posted on 02/01/2006 7:26:34 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: wagglebee
I haven't had time to read this entire thread.

That said, do we KNOW who the sponsors of the Oscars are going to be? An email campaign in in order.

I will NOT watch this year.

154 posted on 02/01/2006 7:27:27 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: msnimje
Aren't they having a "Life of Snails" documentary on the Discovery channel that night?

If it's on Discovery HD, I'll be watching. I recently got an HDTV capable set and now I'm an addict.

155 posted on 02/01/2006 7:27:33 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: jimbo123

A hobbit? :)


156 posted on 02/01/2006 7:30:16 AM PST by Politicalmom (Must I use a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Might I suggest you watch them with him, and when the scary scenes happen, curl up beside him and make him feel like he is your protector. It will do wonders for his self-esteem.


157 posted on 02/01/2006 7:33:12 AM PST by Sensei Ern (Now, IB4Z! http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy/ "Cowards cut and run. Heroes never do!")
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To: jimbo123

The guys who watch the Oscars should do it at a local bar. Just slide right up, and push up a stool.


158 posted on 02/01/2006 7:33:53 AM PST by MonroeDNA (Look for the union label--on the bat crashing through your windshield!)
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To: jimbo123

Count me among the non-viewers


159 posted on 02/01/2006 7:35:27 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Sensei Ern

None of the major categories but it did for makeup, visual effects and sound. It's up against Star Wars Revenge of the Sith for visual effects and makeup so I wouldn't hold my breath there but you never know. For sound who knows. These categories are usually voted on by the technicians and who knows what politics are involved.


160 posted on 02/01/2006 7:38:07 AM PST by xp38
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