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Sheehan Went Too Far with the T-Word (Even Leftist Whackos Beginning to Back Away from Grief Pimp!)
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | 02/01/2006 | Susan Paynter

Posted on 02/01/2006 2:08:03 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Since I saluted her last summer when she took a stand in Crawford, Texas, it seems only fair that I make another public gesture now that Cindy Sheehan has removed one of her "Camp Casey" hiking shoes and stuck her foot firmly in her mouth.

That gesture is to raise a hand and cover up my wincing eyes.

It's not the first time this celebrated and denigrated mother of a fallen soldier has spouted off a bit incautiously. But I cut her a break before. After all, her beloved son Casey died in Iraq while mine is alive and kicking.

Besides, she doesn't have the benefit of a platoon of speech writers and spin artists. And, even with those helpers at his ear, our president has been known to touch his toes to his tongue more than once.

But then, last weekend, Sheehan had her Jane Fonda moment -- one that, like Jane's hey ho to Hanoi, may untie the good she laced together outside Mr. Bush's ranch.

In Caracas, arm in arm with Venezuelan President and "Down with the U.S. empire!" radio show host Hugo Chavez, Sheehan said she agreed with a previous statement made on that show by singer-activist Harry Belafonte. She agreed, she said, that George W. Bush is the greatest terrorist in the world.

Far more interesting than my reaction had to be the reactions of those in Seattle who have worked so hard for so long to legitimately question Mr. Bush's invasion of Iraq and the resulting loss of both civilians and soldiers like 24-year-old Casey Sheehan.

What did they think, I wondered?

Lietta Ruger was careful and thoughtful before weighing in. A military mom and member of Military Families Speak Out, Ruger flew from the Seattle area to Crawford last summer to camp with and support Sheehan. And she says she still believes strongly in Sheehan's original message -- her insistence on an explanation for this war. "That was a question, not a statement," she said. "And we're still looking for an answer."

Ruger believes that Sheehan's stand at Camp Casey nudged much of the nation out of its oblivion over this ill-begotten venture. And she doesn't think Sheehan's radio comment takes anything away from that accomplishment. "But I'm trying to concentrate locally, on the families at Fort Lewis." Ruger said. "And I wouldn't want her (Sheehan) to go there and deliver that message. (The one calling the president the world's greatest terrorist)."

"Military culture says that, while we respect our leaders, we may also question them. But calling them terrorists moves the line," she said.

To his credit, Mike Dedrick didn't mince words where others in the peace movement demurred. A member of Veterans for Peace and a counselor with the GI Rights Hotline, he said a lot of people agree with Sheehan and Belafonte. On Web sites and blogs, lots of people think the president is spreading, not fighting terrorism and are calling for Bush's impeachment.

"Her (Sheehan) comments don't change the fact that we were lied to by George Bush," Dedrick said. "She's entitled to her opinion."

Former Green Party candidate Kara Ceriello admits she was surprised by the "pretty extreme" Belafonte comment seconded by Sheehan. She still loves and admires Sheehan for her Texas stand and believes, full-bore in free speech. But, like Ruger, she thinks better, more careful words sway more people than incendiary name-calling bombs.

"It's important to speak your mind but it's also important to effect change," she said.

Finally, former peace activist and military mom Vicky Monk said that, like me, she winced when she saw the words Sheehan used from her international platform.

Monk has separated herself from Military Families Speak Out since her son came home from Iraq. She's concentrating on his needs now.

She said she was troubled by being pressured to make more radical statements than she was comfortable with when she did travel to speak against the war to Japan and elsewhere. While her politics are conservative, "I have some criticisms about Bush and more important, questions about this war," Monk said. "When my son was there (in Iraq) I was asking the questions he had but couldn't ask. But some of the things people say really disturb me. When they talk in terms of extremes they're really losing people in that greater middle."

I don't know how many still straddle the middle when it comes to Iraq. Dedrick of Veterans for Peace says people were already about as polarized as they could get over the war long before Sheehan spoke on the radio.

But I heard a little tremor when she blasted the already overdeployed T-word at the president last weekend. It was the sound of Cindy Sheehan -- but hopefully not the cause for peace -- losing ground.


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To: oldironsides
Their bills are being paid for by True Majority, a non-profit set up by Ben Cohen -- of Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream fame.

Ben Cohen, True Majority: "People are willing to listen to her and we want to do as much as we can to make her voice heard."

Cohen's group has teamed up with Berkeley based MoveOn.org, an anti-Bush group co-founded by Joan Blades.

Earlier this month, MoveOn helped organize anti-war vigils in support of Cindy Sheehan.

Current Democratic National Party Chair Howard Dean's organization Democracy for America is also involved, as is the more radical anti-war group Code Pink organized by San Francisco's Medea Benjamin.

PR Machine Behind Cindy Sheehan?

See also:

Freeper Investigation: The Truth behind Cindy Sheehan and theLeft-Wing Propaganda machine

61 posted on 02/01/2006 6:43:57 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Dallas59
After closely watching her, I don't feel one damn bit sorry for Sheehan. She is a victim of her own making. Yes, she lost as son and I don't wish that on any mother. Sheehan, however, has disgraced herself by behaving in a manner that undermines what her brave son stood for.

Sheehan got a taste of "fame" and has become addicted. She has adopted the hate America stance of communists and has openly embraced them while accusing our president of being a terrorist.

Sheehan continues trying to sully the memory of her own admired son while proudly showing everyone she is a traitor to her own country.

62 posted on 02/01/2006 6:49:23 AM PST by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Sorry lefties--the "Buyer's Remorse" clause in the contract expired some time ago. Yer stuck with this lemon for the life of the vehicle. Oh, by the way, the warranty's expired, too. Have a nice day!


63 posted on 02/01/2006 7:19:27 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: EternalVigilance

"It's important to speak your mind but it's also important to effect change," she said.

And they don't know the difference between 'effect' and 'affect'...

Sorry, Eternal, but "effect" is correct usage, meaning "to bring about" or "to bring into being". On the other hand, something can "affect " change, that is, "have an impact on". This is not to say, however, that I agree with anything these fools say or write. They are "oblivious" to the threat of islam.


64 posted on 02/01/2006 7:48:32 AM PST by astounded (We don't need no stinkin' rules of engagement...)
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To: Pro-Bush
Casey must be turning in his grave with her behavior.

Indeed.

65 posted on 02/01/2006 7:59:39 AM PST by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: libertylover
And they don't know the difference between 'effect' and 'affect'...

One is a noun, the other is a verb.

66 posted on 02/01/2006 9:06:02 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Low-swooping Hawk)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"And she says she still believes strongly in Sheehan's original message -- her insistence on an explanation for this war. "That was a question, not a statement," she said. "And we're still looking for an answer.""

They are not looking for an answer, they never even started. They created their answer in some smoke filled room where talking points based on opposition research are formulated. Sheehan was elevated from grieving yet misguided ditz-mom, to a false national heroine by the same DNC party operatives. She turned out to be an antisemitic liar, too embarrassing even for far left of the party to gloss over.

The "answer" they do not seek has been in front of their noses all along, they refuse to see it. Now, additional documentary evidence of the direct connection to Saddam's genocidal regime and anti-American terrorism is coming to light in the form of thousands of authenticated documents. More and more clues and evidence to the real Syrian disposition of stockpiles of WMD's is even making the MSM. And Al Qaida honchos have to release hastily recorded tapes, risking exposure, to prove they are still alive... unlike their chief "bomb maker".

No, answers and the truth are clearly not what these people seek, and the spectacle of them running from the mounting evidence, while endless repeating totally discredited accusations against Bush, his intent, and the actual status of the war will entertain us all right up to the November election. Will they get the point after that? A good subject for speculation, but I doubt it.

67 posted on 02/01/2006 9:16:35 AM PST by Richard Axtell
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To: hershey

I don't feel sorry for Cindy at all. She should be ashamed at what she has done to dishonor her son. Photos of her with Chavez shows just what a idiot she has become.


68 posted on 02/01/2006 9:20:45 AM PST by JFC (W, I am with YA)
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To: mewzilla

Cindy should be arrested. She coozies up with Chavez and calls President a terrorist. She should be hung imho!


69 posted on 02/01/2006 9:35:50 AM PST by JFC (W, I am with YA)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

These dippy and delusional "military moms" join in supporting this traitor (Sheehan) and now they are backing away.

This should prove to people that the liberals have no base beliefs and join on any boat floating by .. but when the boat starts taking on water - they are the first to jump ship. I not only don't want these people on my team .. I don't want them in charge of my govt.


70 posted on 02/01/2006 10:00:19 AM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Sheehan Went Too Far with the T-Word (Even Leftist Whackos Beginning to Back Away from Grief Pimp!)

I say this sudden lack of support for Cindy from Susan Paynter has far more to do with Cindy starting to attack fellow "progressive" Democrats than anything stupid she said about President Bush.

71 posted on 02/01/2006 10:25:07 AM PST by RJL
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To: oldironsides

For the life of me, I believe that Karl Rove is finacially supporting Cindy Sheehan; I think he even posted her bail last night!

Sheehan is a Rovian Plot to destroy the democrats.

Just my 2 cents.

RD


72 posted on 02/01/2006 10:27:00 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The left is hijacked by the Sheehag's of the world. They're not going away any time soon.


73 posted on 02/01/2006 11:41:04 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: Allegra

She'll go away at some point in the future when the Democrats denounce her and the leftist kooks that have hijacked the entire Democrat party. So far, the Democrats seem to be cozy with the idea she's out there spewing her idiocy.


74 posted on 02/01/2006 11:44:46 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: RJL
I say this sudden lack of support for Cindy from Susan Paynter has far more to do with Cindy starting to attack fellow "progressive" Democrats than anything stupid she said about President Bush.

I doubt it. Karl Rove wouldn't give Sheehan the time of day.

75 posted on 02/01/2006 11:48:01 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Proud to be a cotton-pickin' Republican on the GOP Plantation)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
I say this sudden lack of support for Cindy from Susan Paynter has far more to do with Cindy starting to attack fellow "progressive" Democrats than anything stupid she said about President Bush.

I doubt it. Karl Rove wouldn't give Sheehan the time of day.

How does Karl Rove fit into Cindy's attacks on Senators Hillary Clinton and Dianne Feinstein?

76 posted on 02/01/2006 12:17:02 PM PST by RJL
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To: BigSkyFreeper

The Democrats will only denounce her if she becomes a Republican. They won't even denounce the Rosenbergs.


77 posted on 02/01/2006 12:21:41 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Darkwolf377
I don't see this as proof the libs are backing away from Sheehan as much as they are trying to appear to be different from the Fonda Nam crowd. They're trying to look like the REASONABLE anti-war folks, the ones who are "for the troops".

And like the Fonda people a generation ago, their biggest lie is that they are anti-war. They are only opposed to American victory in war.

78 posted on 02/01/2006 12:30:45 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Pro-Bush; singfreedom

that really looks photoshopped...


79 posted on 02/01/2006 1:15:57 PM PST by CharlieOK1 (Ideally pacifism would be great, but only if you've got an army of non-pacifists to protect you)
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To: Dallas59
Re: I feel sorry for Cindy,

I feel sorry for her son, Casey died thinking he was protecting his mother but as it turns out he died to promote her antiwar/america agenda!

80 posted on 02/01/2006 5:08:19 PM PST by rocksblues (John McCain says adopt a terrorist today!)
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