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Sluggish private job growth indicates failure of tax cuts
EPI ^ | Jan 31, 2006 | Lee Price

Posted on 01/31/2006 6:13:23 PM PST by liberallarry

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To: Brilliant

Exactly! I'm amazed at the ingnorance of these so-called economists who ignore just how many crises this country has indured in the last 5 years...yet continues to roll. Heck, from the corporate scandals and bankruptcies to 9/11 and the WOT to the natural disasters and oil prices...if it wasn't for these tax-cuts we would've been buried long ago. Try again, Larry.


21 posted on 01/31/2006 6:44:33 PM PST by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *asses)
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To: liberallarry

These clowns would have us believe that companies that profit from defense spending are not part of the private sector.

Same old pack of lies.


22 posted on 01/31/2006 6:46:43 PM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: liberallarry
I sent my resume to a few recruiters.

The phone's been ringing nonstop.

If this is "sluggish", I wouldn't survive "heated".

23 posted on 01/31/2006 6:49:39 PM PST by Lazamataz (I have a Chinese family renting an apartment from me. They are lo mein tenants.)
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To: liberallarry
"Who founded EPI?" Who cares?

Not all of us have economics degrees. Understanding agendas helps understand subsequent spin.

24 posted on 01/31/2006 6:51:53 PM PST by Lazamataz (I have a Chinese family renting an apartment from me. They are lo mein tenants.)
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To: Lazamataz
I think you're just being modest, Laz.

Very good people and low-wage, hard-workers are in demand (probably always). What about the others?

25 posted on 01/31/2006 6:55:18 PM PST by liberallarry
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To: frankjr

What economist doesn't believe tax cuts stimulate the economy? That's one of the basic tenets of economics.

Are these people serious?


26 posted on 01/31/2006 6:57:14 PM PST by GianniV
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To: Lazamataz
Understanding agendas helps understand subsequent spin.

That can happen...but more often it's just a way of rejecting a position without understanding it.

27 posted on 01/31/2006 6:57:16 PM PST by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry

what plamet is this guy talking about?


28 posted on 01/31/2006 6:58:04 PM PST by wny
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To: Hendrix
The writer still believes in the failed Keynesian economics.

That's right. But I didn't know it failed. I thought it had just been abused. What was supposed to be an emergency, counter-cyclical policy was turned by Left-wing liberals into a permanent redistribution scheme.

29 posted on 01/31/2006 7:00:06 PM PST by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
But all this is irrelevant. The article is simple as could be; All job creation since Bush took office can be fairly attributed to increased government spending.

If you believe their figures and definitions, that is.

I'm inclined to believe this bunch has cooked the books to produce figures which support their hypothesis. The sources and bases for their data -- and how that same data would look on a skewed timescale -- would be illuminating.

You know what they say about "statistics". This case is probably an object demonstration of the point.

30 posted on 01/31/2006 7:00:11 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01
Check out the caption below the graph:

*Jobs for the rest of FY2006 based on the 12-month growth rate from December 2004 to December 2005
Source: Author's analysis of CRS, Defense Department, and OMB data.

What sophistry. He's basing his ersatz "analysis" on Dec'04 to Dec'05, when a significant chunk of coastline was annihilated by a hurricane. What drivel. Also, what exactly does FY2006 mean? Fiscal Year, but for whom? When does it start and end?

31 posted on 01/31/2006 7:03:59 PM PST by lesser_satan
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To: liberallarry

You don't have a growing economy for ages without job production. Period.

Unless, of course, productivity begins to outpace/hold even with economic expansion. And we've been seeing amazing gains in productivity for some time now. So no, I'm going to disagree with you. Job growth has been the result of tax cuts. The results have just been dampened a bit by the productivity gains.


32 posted on 01/31/2006 7:04:37 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: liberallarry

Unemployment is too low right now to have high sky-high job growth anyway. Unemployment doesn't go down to 0% when there is a good economy; 95% is usually considered "full employment".


33 posted on 01/31/2006 7:10:22 PM PST by Sofa King (A wise man uses compromise as an alternative to defeat. A fool uses it as an alternative to victory.)
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To: liberallarry

The authors have engaged in a little bait and switch here. First they analyze job performance over the term of Bush's presidency (a perfectly valid topic), but then in their conclusion they switch over and try to pretend that they're analyzing the results of Bush's tax cut. If you want to see how the tax cuts have affected the economy, you have to look at the period in which the tax cuts were in effect: that's 2003-2006, NOT 2001-2006. Since the authors are using net job gains, the 2001-2002 period of massive job loss contributes to their predetermined conclusion by allowing them to deflate the actual gains made after the cuts.


34 posted on 01/31/2006 7:10:49 PM PST by fluffy
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To: liberallarry
Very good people and low-wage, hard-workers are in demand (probably always). What about the others?

If by "the others" you mean the polar opposites of those you named, I can't imagine who would want them as employees. What is one to do with sub-standard, underperforming employees? How do they help a company to achieve its goals and reap profits?

35 posted on 01/31/2006 7:27:02 PM PST by Denver Ditdat (Leftist New Year's resolution: force Christians into the closets vacated by gays)
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If by "the others" you mean the polar opposites of those you named

Of course I don't mean that.

I mean those who are not brilliant but who expect good wages for their labor. Those who are being gradually forced out by cheap labor from Third-World countries. Most of America's workers.

36 posted on 01/31/2006 7:31:27 PM PST by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
I recently heard (wish I could remember now where) that in the months since the original Reagan tax cuts in 1981 (about 290 months) we've had a total of 15 months of recession (about 5-6% of that time) and that occurred when Bush Sr. very foolishly listened to democrats and raised taxes.

But I'm sure that's all a coincidence...

37 posted on 01/31/2006 7:35:47 PM PST by THX 1138
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To: liberallarry

"That's right. But I didn't know it failed."

Keynesian economics is a failed economic theory. Its principles are based on poor logic and wrong assumptions. It went bye bye with Jimmy Carter.


38 posted on 01/31/2006 7:38:34 PM PST by Hendrix
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To: liberallarry
which mostly went to wealthy individuals

Check your own facts first, liberal. "Mostly" to wealthy individuals is a simple result of the fact that "wealthy" individuals pay the "most" tax! I'm not rich, but I benefited from the tax cuts -- in exact proportion to how much tax I paid! Simple math refutes your silly assertion.

Typical crap from the same old crowd....

39 posted on 01/31/2006 7:46:19 PM PST by been_lurking
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To: Hendrix

Still being taught at a university near you.


40 posted on 01/31/2006 7:48:30 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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