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Activists Want Videotaped Cops Fired
AP ^ | 1/31/6 | JIM SALTER

Posted on 01/31/2006 11:06:24 AM PST by SmithL

Saint Louis -- Black activists on Tuesday called for the firing of police officers who were shown on live television swinging night sticks and punching and kicking a suspect after a car chase.

The Missouri State Highway Patrol was investigating to see if the four officers involved had acted illegally.

The suspect, Edmon Burns, 33, of St. Louis County, was treated at a hospital and released, and was jailed. No charges had been filed. His attorney did not return calls Tuesday.

Burns and one of the four officers, from St. Louis, are black, The three other officers, from suburban Maplewood, are white.

The chase began Monday in Maplewood, where officers said they noticed a man in a van acting suspiciously. It ended in St. Louis.

Much of the chase was shown on live television shot from a KTVI-TV helicopter, along with the officers apparently beating the man for several seconds. What could not be clearly seen on the video was how much the suspect was resisting.

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What could not be clearly seen on the video was how much the suspect was resisting.
1 posted on 01/31/2006 11:06:25 AM PST by SmithL
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2 posted on 01/31/2006 11:09:51 AM PST by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: SmithL

He probably wouldnt have got his ass kicked if he had just pulled over to begin with.


3 posted on 01/31/2006 11:09:52 AM PST by Lunatic Fringe (North Texas Solutions http://ntxsolutions.com)
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I saw a clip of this and the police did use a nightstick and another kicked him. It was hard to see if he was resisting. However, the black activists failed to mention anything about him endangering innocent people by running from the police in a vehicle. It must have slipped their minds.


4 posted on 01/31/2006 11:13:35 AM PST by jazusamo (A Progressive is only a Socialist in a transparent disguise.)
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To: SmithL
The chase began Monday in Maplewood, where officers said they noticed a man in a van acting suspiciously.

What the #$%^ does "in a van acting suspiciously" mean? Was he just sitting there? Was he snorting some coke off the steering wheel? Parked outside a high school with some candy? What?

5 posted on 01/31/2006 11:14:59 AM PST by TheBigB (My tagline can kick your tagline's @$$.)
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To: SmithL

I saw this live on Fox and was wondering when the bleating would commence.


6 posted on 01/31/2006 11:22:00 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: SmithL

If this is the clip I saw, the cop who ran up and started kicking him was clearly acting unhinged. There is the faint possibility the suspect had something in his hand, but it seems unlikely.

I know that the adrenaline gets pumping, but this is unsportsmanlike activity. The irony is, they call this, "Subduing the prisoner." -- Yeah, with a boot.

Man, they treat alligators with more care.


7 posted on 01/31/2006 11:22:07 AM PST by NicknamedBob (And then I sat down and I wrote this report, ‘cause I knew that you’d want all the facts.)
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To: SmithL
One of the most difficult and important things a LEO needs to learn is that it is not his job to punish suspects, but to investigate and arrest them.

Punishment is, in our nation, a matter for judge and jury, outside the heat of the moment and in public view.

That said, it's awfully hard not to be aggressive with the guy after he has endangered many lives and the LEOs are wound up on adrenaline. Good job catching him. :-)

8 posted on 01/31/2006 11:25:56 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: SmithL
It's never pretty when a suspect resists apprehension.

(It's the same with the liberals idea of a war: It should last two weeks with no American solders or civilians or enemy killed.)

Let the cops do their job.
9 posted on 01/31/2006 11:27:02 AM PST by aligncare (No one says, "I liked the movie but, there just wasn't enough cursing")
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To: TChris

Well, you were there. What do you think happened?


10 posted on 01/31/2006 11:27:22 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: SmithL

Who obtained permission to video-tape the officers? Was there a check and balance in place or was a rogue responsible for the taping? Because you know, the taping, if illegal, is more important than anything wrong the officers in question may have done.


11 posted on 01/31/2006 11:30:36 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: NicknamedBob

But an alligator carcass may be of some use.


12 posted on 01/31/2006 11:30:43 AM PST by SmithL (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: NicknamedBob
IMO, one should never second guess someone who might be injured or killed should they let their guard down.

Use maximum force 'till the perp is subdued.
13 posted on 01/31/2006 11:31:08 AM PST by aligncare (No one says, "I liked the movie but, there just wasn't enough cursing")
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In a recent case here in Houston, a mentally ill man died when he was tasered several times when the jailers were trying to get him to the mental health facility. Our local Jesse Jackson wanna-be didn't just ask that the jailers be fired; he said they were murderers, that they had intentionally killed the man. The man, Quannel X never missed a chance to divide this city on race.


14 posted on 01/31/2006 11:35:14 AM PST by half-cajun
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Well, you were there. What do you think happened?

What gave you the impression that I was there, or that I claimed to have been there?

I have been a LEO though.

15 posted on 01/31/2006 11:35:18 AM PST by TChris ("Unless you act, you're going to lose your world." - Mark Steyn)
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To: Bavarian Leprechaun
These incidents are nothing - yet such huge deals are made about them. Amazing.

One in 200 suspects runs from the cops. The ones that run are guilty as hell, and often will sacrifice their lives rather than be caught. If they sacrifice a few innocent lives while running, well, they could care less.

Those that get beaten deserve to get beaten. They are endangering the lives of the officers and countless innocent people when they run from the cops in a vehicle at 130 MPH.

17 posted on 01/31/2006 11:39:45 AM PST by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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Man, they treat alligators with more care.

Only until the gators jump into cars and run away from the police.

18 posted on 01/31/2006 11:45:49 AM PST by American Quilter (The urge to save humanity is nearly always a cover for the urge to rule. - H.L. Mencken)
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To: NicknamedBob
If this is the clip I saw, the cop who ran up and started kicking him was clearly acting unhinged. There is the faint possibility the suspect had something in his hand, but it seems unlikely. I know that the adrenaline gets pumping, but this is unsportsmanlike activity. The irony is, they call this, "Subduing the prisoner." -- Yeah, with a boot. Man, they treat alligators with more care.

Man, take that "bleeding heart" liberal tripe home to mamma. If I had been one of the officers, I would have also emptied a can of pepper spray on him and also zapped him with my taser gun.
19 posted on 01/31/2006 11:45:56 AM PST by One4Indictment
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What could not be clearly seen on the video was how much the suspect was resisting......
[[The chase began Monday in Maplewood, where officers said they noticed a man in a van acting suspiciously. It ended in St. Louis. Much of the chase was shown on live television shot from a KTVI-TV helicopter]]


----If they were engaged in a chase, then he WAS resisting arrest.


20 posted on 01/31/2006 11:46:52 AM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man)
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