In some cases, yes. In other cases, not necessarily. I agree that He is outside the realm of science.
When dopes like Deepak Chopra, faith healers, homeopaths, touch therapists, chiropractors, shamans, witch doctors, and creationists/IDers try to marry the two, people like me get mad.
I do as well. However, I also get mad when people start denigrating others based on beliefs and different interpretations of the evidence. I have no problem identifying the TOE as a theory. I do have a problem identifying it as fact. It has not been proven, though many here see the evidence as proof. Evidence is not proof. Evidence points to proof.
I happen to be a creationist (surprise, surprise!). I also believe in the Bible. The original Hebrew that was used for the word "day" in Genesis indicates a normal, 24-hour day. Given this, and the evidence I see around me, and the evidence others present, I reject the TOE.
I may be wrong in some of the arguments I present. For all I know it is possible for the very beginning asexually-reproducing creatures to produce a sexually-reproducing creature. I wouldn't bet on it, though.
At the very least, given the possible consequences of a wrong choice, wouldn't you rather err on the positive side? This is not a plea for spiritual matters, but a plea to recognize that science is not the only begetter of truth in this universe. There are quite a few things that science does not attempt to explain, nor can explain.
Then you unequivocally reject much of modern science. Given that, why should we take seriously any scientific arguments you might make?
I may be wrong in some of the arguments I present. For all I know it is possible for the very beginning asexually-reproducing creatures to produce a sexually-reproducing creature. I wouldn't bet on it, though.
But then, you reject the ordinary, demonstrable-in-a-laboratory processes of radioactive decay. Why would we argue something as complex as sexual reprodcution with you, when you don't accept well defined, well understood, basic physics?
For example? Be specific.
Heck, I would *love* to have an actual difference of itnerpretation on the evidence. But that's not what the anti-evolutionists do. Instead, as you've seen on this thread, they either totally ignore the evidence and refuse to talk about it at all, or they simply lie about it.
I have yet to see anyone blasetd just for having a different interpretation. Man, I'd be *ecstatic* if the creationist "contributions" to these threads actually rose to that level. It would be a welcome change from all the lies, the belligerent "evidence can't prove nothin', so I ain't lookin' at it!", the "my interpretation of the Bible is the last word so nothing else matters", and the "you'll be sorry when you die and God damns you to hell" stuff.
I'm not aware of anyone who *does* identify the *Theory* of evolution as fact.
What *I* have a problem with is the anti-evolutionists writing off even the facts as "just a theory".
It has not been proven, though many here see the evidence as proof. Evidence is not proof. Evidence points to proof.
This whole passage is word hash. First, science does not deal in proofs. Second, "proof" is a standard that is impossible for anything in this real world -- "proof" is only possible in artificial realms like mathematics.
I happen to be a creationist (surprise, surprise!). I also believe in the Bible. The original Hebrew that was used for the word "day" in Genesis indicates a normal, 24-hour day. Given this, and the evidence I see around me, and the evidence others present, I reject the TOE.
What evidence do you have that a) Genesis is reliable, b) your interpretation of it is reliable, c) that there's anything wrong with the TOE?
I may be wrong in some of the arguments I present. For all I know it is possible for the very beginning asexually-reproducing creatures to produce a sexually-reproducing creature. I wouldn't bet on it, though.
...because? From your earlier questions, it appears the reason for your doubt is nothing more than the fact that you don't know enough about biology to grasp how such things occur, and to know that there are already many living things which reproduce in multiple ways which you erroneously considered either/or or incompatible with each other. There's a name for this kind of fallacy: The Argument From Ignorance. That may sound like an insult, but it's not. It's just the argument of the form, "If I (the speaker) can't think of how this could be possible, then it's not possible." It's an argument based on the speaker's *lack* of understanding and/or knowledge, not based on any actual evidence, knowledge, or logical argument.
At the very least, given the possible consequences of a wrong choice, wouldn't you rather err on the positive side?
Finding truth is not about "hedging your bets" or "playing it safe".
Furthermore, your argument is known as "Pascal's Wager", and the flaws in it have been identified for centuries, ever since Pascal first elucidated it in the 1600's -- and the dissection of it came immediately afterwards.
The most succinct rebuttal is that Pascal's Wager is an equally "good" argument for worshipping Odin. After all, if Odin doesn't exist, I've lost nothing, whereas if he does, it's a good thing I've worshipped him, because if I didn't I'd be screwed out of Valhalla.
...Right?
And then the *same* argument "justifies" worshipping Shiva, Quetzelcotl, Tonantzin, and Cthulhu. *And* the invisible pink unicorns.
Another dumb part of Pascal's Wager is the implication that one "loses nothing" if one follows and worships a non-existent god. On the contrary.
Yet another problem is the question of whether a god would be likely to reward someone who didn't necessarily believe in the god, but went through the motions because of the results of a cost-benefit analysis on whether to act as if one actually believed...
See for example:
A refutation of Pascal’s wager and why skeptics should be non-theistsInternet Encyclopedia of Philosophy: Pascal's Wager
Pascal's Wager Is A Possible Bet (But Not A Very Good One)
This is not a plea for spiritual matters, but a plea to recognize that science is not the only begetter of truth in this universe.
It is, however, worlds ahead of the second-place contender.
There are quite a few things that science does not attempt to explain, nor can explain.
Particularly things of no consequence. I mean that literally.