Posted on 01/29/2006 2:30:08 PM PST by mcvey
Ok, Freepers:
As some of you know I occassionally work with films. This "review" of King Kong was posted to H-AMSTUDY, the main list serve for professionals in American Studies. Many, many academics wrote in agreement. If, after reading this, you want to know what it is like for your sons and daughters in college, go to the following web site and type King Coon into the search engine. You will get maybe two dozen responses which, with one exception, are supportive of this statement.
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From: Kelvin Monroe List Editor: "Seth C. Bruggeman" Editor's Subject: NEWt: King Coon, I mean King Kong Author's Subject: NEWt: King Coon, I mean King Kong Date Written: Thu 19 Jan 14:53:24 EST 2006 Date Posted: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:00:41 -0500 It is late in the day for the Bullshit...
King Kong is, in my opinion, a subtle celebration of the Atlantic Slave trade and slavery in Amerikkka.
King King, first off is a metaphor for the ultimate "nigga." It is here that i make a brief reference to the movie _Training Day_. Alonzo remarks "King Kong ain't got nothing on me." He is the ultimate form of threat to the state organism, public enemy no. 1. Alonzo's death in _Training Day_ is nothing short of a lynching, much similar to Kong's death in the original, or I think about the Tracy Macgrady's commercial where he is oversized and he drives to the basket, while there are tanks, jets---a military arsenal "attacking" him, trying to restrain him. I think in someway King Kong is ultimately connected and and the source of white supremacist discourses against black people in genral, black males specifically.
Not to mention that he is supposed to fall in love in a white woman. In the imgaination of most white people, it seems to me that they all really want to believe that every black man secretly desires a white woman.
Further, white women (these same white feminists who are critiquing men of color at every turn about our sexism/masculinism) should be up in shambles as well: in the words of Paul Mooney, hollywood always got white women fallin in love/trying to love/ trying to change freaks and beasts and killers; and then when serial killers kill 20, 30, 40, 50 white women over a period of time, then they wonder what was the influence. You tell people in the movies that it is okay to kill white women and then when cats do that shit for real you wonder what about the problem ....Then in a nod to racist criminal justice system (that just murdered Tookie Williams), you have these white judges/authorities that somehow see themselves in these white killers and then they allow these white killers to pick a personality and call it insanity/crazy all because some white man feels like he can relate to other white men... well, paraphrasing historian Ishakramusa Barashango, the basic nature of the European American remains unchanged......
...In the original 1933 version, King Kong blows on the woman (with his stank-ass gorilla breath), after washing her off in the water...one can see that she is clearly gettin off on this shit....that is nothing more than beastiality.
King Kong resides in Africa, their object is to cage him up and bring him to Amerikkka and make money off of him thru exhibitions--the history in the country is terrible when it comes to exhibiting "Natives" to the rest of the world...Sounds like the St. Louis Exhibition, the Columbia Exhibition and so on and so forth....these are "natives" are people not objects....however, they keep King Coon, I mean King Kong locked up and use him for profit.......Then peep the violent measures the state takes against the ultimate "nigga." This is slavery and nothing more... e'nuff said.
And in the 21st century there is a need to remake this bullshit that was clearly some bullshit in 1933. And on some other shit, the only cannibals that I know of are white--Hannibal Lester and Jeff Dahmer (who eats black people), and the whole time it is white people telling the world that black in Africa are cannibals....when the whole time the psychological projections points to the real cannibals....again, Jeff Dahmer, oh, that movie _Alive_ when the white people start eating each other on the mountain side...
see it is late in the day for the bullshit, i am sick and tired of this racism in the 21st century--blatent, and bold racism. Then White people are quick to wanna say "you black people are so paranoid." but who murdered Africa, the World Health Organization; before 1978 there was no blood with HIV contamination...my point is this: we ain't paranoid, i mean in what other way can King Kong be relevant to humans, especially since King Kongs donot exist...so what is this movie really about? People use crackhead as if it signifies a particular race of people, the term crackhead is racialized---(70% of the crackhead users in Amerikkka are white)...Talk about crackheads, aren't there crackheads in Hollywood. There must be, because only crackheads write this kind of shit and then get other crackheads to produce and direct these crackhead stories/fantasies/imaginations...look at Edward ScissorsHands....that is some crackhead stuff.....
this is just a snap, there might be errors in this post/email.... I just this is worth some conversation on an American Studies listserve.
peace and one,
K. J. Monroe Comparative Ethnic Studies/Rhetoric/Jazz Studies Washington State University
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This hasn't been deleted yet?
Yes...exactly so. I made a post to that effect before I saw this comment by you...
OH YEAH, that was one thing I was going to put in my first post: it's "Lector", not "Lestor" and he's a fictional character unlike Dahmer.
Your experience is not unique, trust me. What I often see in my classes is kind of an underlying unthinking stereotyping of conservative views. This comes from the ideas promoted by (often equally gullible) secondary teachers who teach the party line because that is what they know. Some of it is pretty raw and a lot of it is as filled with hate towards America as the gentlemen who wrote the thing on King Kong.
In my experience, the majority of parents do not really have much influence on what their kids think. This allows the liberal clique to do things.
Most kids I have taught over the last three decades have great instincts but have never been encouraged to focus on what they believe and why they believe it.
One last story which I hope this list picks up on. Once upon a time I was mistakenly invited to a Marxist conference in Montana (paid for by Montana taxpayers, by the way.) But I went, because, well, it promised to be too much fun to miss. On the second day of the conference, they bussed in a number of high school teachers from central Montana. The speaker that day, one of the best known liberal arts professors in the country, opened his talk with the words: "isn't it great we don't have to talk about Robert E. Lee anymore?"
So that is where we are.
McVey
Who would delete it?
This is something that completely throws me off of the cliff when I see people do it.
Reasonable people can watch a movie for entertainment value, and walk out of the theater with a foundation which enables discussion of related issues, which is often a good thing.
Weak minded people see a film like Oliver Stone's "JFK" or Coppola's "Apocalypse Now", and to them, it is REALITY. Good God. I heard a liberal make an entire analysis of a news item, for about 15 minutes, with a series of non-stop movie analogies. Talk about either a deficit of ideas, experience or expression.
On the humerous side, I remember going to see "Apollo 13", and as we left the theater, a woman in front of me said to her male companion: "I sure am glad the movie ended the way it did! It would have been a sad ending if the astronauts had died!"
I nearly spit the remainder of my bladder-buster drink on her back!
Ahhh, yes, we train people to play the "race card" when it suits and then to scream racism on ANY issue which they dislike.
McVey
Arggghhh. What an IGNORANT statement! How could anyone who understands and knows history say that? I am no Southern apologist, far from it, I admire Lincoln for taking the republic to war to preserve it. But Robert E. Lee was an exceedingly gifted AMERICAN, who wrestled with ethical and moral issues, eventually doing what he thought was right, even though it went against everything he thought he stood for, loyalty, fidelity and so on. Arghh. Look what you have made me do now. I am completely off subject. This is an abomination.
The admins - for being a hysterical paranoid rant not worthy of discussion.
I see your point there, but there is a difference.
Were that this was anything more than a hysterical paranoid rant. This is the thought process of a major portion of the Left today.
The paranoid delusions, the unceasing ranting about one race with power while others suffer, the casual mix of facts, fantasy, fiction, and race-hatred... this guy is as sane and clearminded as the Nazi elite in prewar Germany. Just insert "jew" instead of "white." An alternative is a dedicated communist following Trotsky - just insert "capitalist" instead of "white."
This guy is so oppressed he probably only has one teaching assistant, a car that is 10 years old, an apartment with only two bathrooms, health insurance without covering vision, free Internet access, and a paltry three months of vacation. No wonder he's fuming about the injustice of it all.
That is just sickeningly sad.
Proof that liberalism is a mental illness. The question now is, can it be treated?
Jack@ss of all trades and master of none.
You're so right. The other night, some woman went on this long, conspiracy-filled rant about President Bush. It took a few minutes for me to realize she was talking about Fereihneit 911. She called it a "documentary:.
I told her she might as well have ME arrested too: my family has ties to the Saudi Royal Family, my dad lived in Saudi for many years, he's a native Texan - in fact, most of my family lives in Texas - I worked on three Bush campaigns AND, as a specialist in Mideast events, including terrorism, for 25 years, I was one of the people who both knew AND tried to warn the government we were ripe for attack. I even had one of the targets right; just got the year wrong.
By her logic, I'm more guilty of 9/11 than President Bush was, even the 911 Commission proved Moore was a liar and nobody with an IQ high enough to use their computer for something besides gambling on AOL should realize F911 was complete BS. But she was welcome to try and have me arrested.
Tell that to Hillary...
Why that is so obvious! Snickers? Sounds like "Snicka's". That is painfully close to rhyming with the n-word! And 7-11? It speaks of the iconic low-rent hangout. Late nights, high prices, crime, surveillance cams! It's 'The Man' exploiting the working class!
(Hey, I think I'm getting the hang of this movie review B.S. speak! Give me a degree in movieology already!) ;-)
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