U.S. Brings Back the .45

Strategy Page ^ | January 27, 2006

[Richard-SIA]

Well, I am something of a "gun expert".

And I carry a Browning High-Power 9mm.

I used to carry a 1911 .45, until it became very clear that 14 rds. of 9mm is far better than 7 rds. of .45 when facing multiple assailants.

I am a pretty fair shot, but having to shoot in the real world, where the bad guys are shooting at YOU, from cover, I realize that the extra rounds are more important then just "stopping power".

In reality shot PLACEMENT is far more important than caliber.

I know a man who survived being shot with a .50 BMG round, and of several others who have died from .17 pellet rifles.

[mouser]

Now your little girl comment, I take exception to. when my oldest daughter was 10 she started firing my 1911 .45 made by springfield armory. At the time she was about 4'6" and weighed about 60 lbs yep a little girl. I would let her fire 2-3 clips when we went out shooting. after abut 5 trips she could keep 6 out of 7 on a paper plate at 25 feet not long range but she got better with age ,size and practice. My experience with the .45 is that those who practice do good those who do not practice do poorly.

[76834]

"As I understand it, the Geneva Convention prohibits the use of hollow points."

Also have a 700 Remington chambered in 30.06
Have lots of boxes of rounds all with tips of rounds drilled out to make them hollowpoints.
Live in Texas and we are being invaded. Govt dosent seem to give a damm so we have to do what we have to do to defend ourselves.

[Richard-SIA]

Actually, the Original "Trench Broom" was a shotgun, often with a barrel of less than 18" and a bayonet.
Thompson's came later, look at their model numbers.

[LFOD]

I have 3 - a Wilson CQB, Kimber Custom II and a Colt Series 80 Commander w/ Ed Brown barrel & Novak low mounts.
All will group 1-1/2" or less - depending how much coffee I've had.............of course these are all IDPA power factor compliant (165+), not wimp loads.
Find someone with a modern gun, you will be pleased with the results.
.45's have come a long way indeed.
Regards.

[Zeppo]

Please be more specific - what techniques did you learn about shooting the M1911?

[76834]

What kinda shotgun?
Big ole Browning?

Love Bonnie and Clyde music </grin

[Noumenon]

"I like my Glock 10mm. :-)"

As do I. It's nice to have 15+1 rounds of .41 mag-class argument stoppers on tap. Having said that, the only reason that me and the missus have SIG 229s in .40 is that that was the pistol and biggest caliber with which she was quick and accurate. She just didn't feel as comfortable on a first-shot basis with a .45. So we went for matching SIGs in .40 as the best compromise. I also liked having the option to switch to the .357 SIG round with a mere barrel and magazine change. Some folks think pretty highly of the .357 SIG, but I haven't been able to test the hypothesis as yet.

[Phsstpok]

Is that your CCW?

Hey, I'm a BUFF myself. I could carry a Mossberg 500 concealed, if I really wanted to. ;^>

[fallujah-nuker]

45ACP ping!

[Recon Dad]

My son says that the only way to knock down someone with the 9MM is to hit them with them gun.

[ghostcat]

The article really lost me with this statement:"There are several modern designs out there for .45 caliber pistols that ......are easier to maintain than the pre-World War I M1911".
30+ years of gunsmithing tells me that whoever wrote this surely has never worked on the 1911 and all of the newer designs. The newer designs tend to have more parts and more complicated double action trigger designs. Most of the .45 designs out there are nothing more than variations of the Browning short recoil design that was used in the 1911. The real difference in the newer designs usually lie in the trigger mechanism (double action as opposed to single action) and the magazine capacity (double stacked as opposed to single stacked). The only other differences are the material that the frame is constructed of (steel, alloy, polymer).

[StoneColdTaxHater]

Ruger's new p345 is a honey of a gun!

[Recon Dad]

Your barrel must have been bent. Marines Force Recon uses the .45 M1911 and have no problems shooting expert.

[penelopesire]

"Also have a 700 Remington chambered in 30.06
Have lots of boxes of rounds all with tips of rounds drilled out to make them hollowpoints.
Live in Texas and we are being invaded. Govt dosent seem to give a damm so we have to do what we have to do to defend ourselves."

Look on the bright side...Janet Reno could be in charge and have your 'compound' surrounded...lol

[bad company]

9mm would still have a problem going through multiple layers of clothing

Mutiple layers of clothing? Good god. The $hit that passes for wisdom around here is astounding.

[Donald Rumsfeld Fan]

...1911 Browning 45 semi-automatic..used WWI thru Korean war and beyond.

..John Moses Browning ..inventor..1855 - 1926

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

I saw a guy put 5 in the x ring with a 1911 in three seconds from 50 feet.

Holding the pistol upside down, one hand on his knee, bent over and firing with his pinkie.

I have learned to get three inch groups @ 35 yards with mine, but it really needs another visual sight on the bottom of the magazine.

That is probably why that Marine held it upside down - - experience makes the shooting.

You can visually track the slug falling as it goes down range, which is not a bad thing if you take time to practice a little.

Chambering for a long Colt cartridge would solve that problem.

[DogBarkTree]

All good points, thanks. I dont own a 9mm but do I treasure my old Colt. I suppose a Colt in the hand is worth 5 9mms that arent in my hand. ;)

[musicman]

This one is kinda cool, and it looks like it's got that little rail thingee on top for extra "toys"...