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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 29 January 2006 - Pres Bush on FTN!
Various big media television networks ^ | 29 January 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 01/29/2006 5:01:14 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

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To: newnhdad
I hear they've both camped out on Brokeback Mountain.
281 posted on 01/29/2006 6:52:24 AM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

Correct. I like that phrase "Conjunction Injunction Party."


282 posted on 01/29/2006 6:52:29 AM PST by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World. Democrats and the media are not on our side.)
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To: anita

Why are they polling adults and not registered or likely voters all of a sudden?


283 posted on 01/29/2006 6:52:33 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Good. Thanks!


284 posted on 01/29/2006 6:53:03 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: mware

As usual, I will be unable to watch. I can only see what is posted here. Howard Dean makes for great copy-a classic example of how NOT to run a political party. Every morning he appears on these shows another republican voter is born. Im surprised to see W on CBS, It would be nice to see him bring up Rather/Mapes/Burkett. But having too much class, he wont..


285 posted on 01/29/2006 6:53:07 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: mainepatsfan

I believe Frist has a good heart, and wants to do the right thing, but he just needs a push by the Republican voters to do it. He's someone who needs a big push! LOL


286 posted on 01/29/2006 6:55:15 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: YaYa123

Your understanding of the Abramoff thing is pretty much my take as well...

of course we really don't know the facts yet...and neither does HOWARD!!!


287 posted on 01/29/2006 6:55:21 AM PST by Txsleuth
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To: maica
I may get to hear it on the c-spam re-run of all the shows later on. Darn, hope there is a smackdown today, Juan sounds like he is in need.
288 posted on 01/29/2006 6:55:41 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support the New Media and F.R.)
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To: YaYa123
He got those Indian tribes to give money to republicans AND democrats, for something in return, and that's a bribe, that is what's illegal.

You got it mostly right. Save the above statement.

It is NOT illegal for lobbyists to make political contributions on behalf of their clients to a Political Action Committee. The mere act of doing that is NOT a bribe.

The nuance here is IF a direct political act follows such a contribution, THEN it is a bribe.

This is very difficult to prove and seldom is. Lobbyists represent special interests. The notion is that those special interests represent people who will benefit if a certain person/political party is in power. Social activists, for example, benefit when Dems are in power. Thus they contribute to political action committees to this end. This is NOT a bribe but merely American politics in action.

The fine line between politics as usual and outright bribery is fuzzy and unclear. It's the nature of the beast.

Take this to the bank, the American people aren't paying that much attention to Abramoff and they will NEVER buy that only one political party is guilty.

Abramoff is an inside-the-beltway flap. Americans are practical and busy carrying this country on their backs. They are not going to get all hysterical over a little political chicanery.

Although, make no mistake, Abramoff is a sleaze of the highest order, the politicos who associated with him should have known better. This guy is knee deep in crap, up to and possibly including complicity in a murder.

289 posted on 01/29/2006 6:55:43 AM PST by Fishtalk
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To: mewzilla

That is why, when Palestinians were asked to vote, they voted against Fatah. No one predicted the level of "anyone but Fatah" voters. Hamas did not plan to be the government. They prefer to lurk, criticize and sabotage. Now they have the spotlight, and it will be very interesting to watch it play out!


290 posted on 01/29/2006 6:55:44 AM PST by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World. Democrats and the media are not on our side.)
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To: tiredoflaundry
He's parsing his words. Based on the info on this site, tt is accurate to say that Abramoff never gave any PERSONAL money to the Dims. http://www.capitaleye.org/abramoff_donor.asp It is not correct to say that the Dims never got any money directed by Abramaoff

Cycle
Total
Dems
Repubs
Abramoff
Only
Indian Tribes
Only†
SunCruz
Casinos Only
2000
$393,763
$73,000
$319,763
$56,513
$309,500
$17,500
2002
$1,804,220
$427,730
$1,376,490
$81,740
$1,625,480
$25,500
2004
$1,499,438
$622,603
$876,835
$68,000
$1,347,588
$0
2006
$2,500
$0
$2,500
$0
$2,500
$0
Grand Total
$3,699,921
$1,123,333
$2,575,588
$206,253
$3,285,068
$43,000

*Data for the current election cycle were released electronically by the Federal Election Commission on October 31, 2005. Figures include contributions to federal candidates, PACs and party committees.

†Tribal clients of Jack Abramoff's firm include Agua Caliente Band of Cahuilla Indians, Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, Chitimacha Tribe of Louisiana, Coushatta Tribe of Louisiana, Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians, Saginaw Chippewa Indian Tribe, Pueblo of Sandia, Pueblo of Santa Clara, and Tigua Indian Reservation.

   
http://www.capitaleye.org/abramoff.asp
291 posted on 01/29/2006 6:56:02 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God bless and protect our troops and their CIC. (Seahawks are going to the Superbowl!!))
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To: anita

The MSM uses/makes polls to make 'news'.

Polls are not 'news', but the MSM makes the results 'news'. What better way to manipulate 'news'? If the results are way off expectations, they can be shredded. Otherwise, they can be used to support the agenda of the MSM--to make headlines.


292 posted on 01/29/2006 6:56:41 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Carolinamom

The US is already paying money to the UN for Palestine. It's been billions of dollars. Where is it? Frankly, we should never have continued to fund the UN relief program as it was a couple of years ago. The UN is paying for housing, food and unemployment to the Palestinians.


293 posted on 01/29/2006 6:57:07 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: johnny7

She said that most people say "Well, I'm not talking to Al Queda so I have nothing to be worried about"..
She said that the public supports spying on terrorists because they "don't understand" the implications of the program and it's effects on our privacy.
Barf!


294 posted on 01/29/2006 6:57:22 AM PST by newnhdad
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To: areafiftyone

There's no political reason not to do it.


295 posted on 01/29/2006 6:57:31 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Flavius Josephus
I'm visualizing the questioning: "Mr. Bush, don't you think you're just about the worst president ever?"

IIRC, Russert asked LITERALLY that question, last week. I don't recall who he asked it of, but I got a kick out of it's strength:

"Do you think President Bush will be known as one of the worst Presidents?" or something like that.

296 posted on 01/29/2006 6:57:41 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: snugs

Sure go ahead, MNJ will be doing the honors today and since he is working as am I check with him on when he will be posting.


297 posted on 01/29/2006 6:57:44 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support the New Media and F.R.)
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To: mewzilla
Was that her?


298 posted on 01/29/2006 6:57:59 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Fishtalk
They are not going to get all hysterical over a little political chicanery.

And we ALL know why: The clinton administration and their apologists immunized the public against political chicanery hysteria. They thought it was great at the time, now they couldn't get a rise out of the public if they tried!

299 posted on 01/29/2006 6:59:07 AM PST by small voice in the wilderness (The Culture of Corruption hurts. But it's the dems. Corruption of Culture that destroys.)
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To: Carolinamom

There ought to be a law against former President's like Carter getting stuck on stupid


300 posted on 01/29/2006 6:59:16 AM PST by rodguy911 (Support the New Media and F.R.)
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