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Russia Moved Iraqi WMD
News Max ^ | March 3, 2005 | Charles R. Smith

Posted on 01/28/2006 8:41:24 PM PST by strategofr

Moscow Moved Weapons to Syria and Lebanon

According to a former top Bush administration official, Russian special forces teams moved weapons of mass destruction out of Iraq to Syria.

"I am absolutely sure that Russian Spetsnatz units moved WMD out of Iraq before the war," stated John Shaw, the former deputy undersecretary for international technology security. According to Shaw, Russian units hid Saddam's arsenal inside Syria and in Lebanon's Bekka valley.

"While in Iraq I uncovered detailed information that Spetsnatz units shredded records and moved all WMD and specified advanced munitions out of Iraq to Syria and Lebanon," stated Shaw during an exclusive interview.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baathism; chicoms; china; coldwar2; communism; iran; iraq; johnshaw; kgb; prequel; putin; rasputin; russia; saddam; sovietunion; spetsnatz; spetsnaz; syria; terrorism; ussr; wmd
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Wow! Not surprised, but surprised it was documented like this.
1 posted on 01/28/2006 8:41:25 PM PST by strategofr
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This was my theory too! I figure the Pentagon even has satellite photos of the transfers but can't make it public because we can't afford to alienate or destabilize Russia.

Apparently there is no such thing as a Republican Leaker.
2 posted on 01/28/2006 8:43:14 PM PST by msnimje (The Democrats have suffered an embarrassing and public SCOTUS Interruptus -- Welcome Justice Alito!)
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To: strategofr

The libs and the MSM will be all over this on the Sunday Morning shows...................right!!!!


3 posted on 01/28/2006 8:43:14 PM PST by gathersnomoss
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To: strategofr

Has this been reported anywhere else. The only thing I have seen is the General that stated they were moved.


4 posted on 01/28/2006 8:43:21 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: armymarinemom

Notice that this was written a year ago...and yet not one MSM reporter/pundit has backed off the "there were NO WMDS", stance.

I don't think they will either...even if we were to go to Syria and dig them up...they would find some way to rationalize that they weren't THE weapons on the list that Colin Powell referred to at the UN....

or...we planted them there...or some other excuse.


5 posted on 01/28/2006 8:47:05 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: strategofr
"I am absolutely sure that Russian Spetsnatz units moved WMD out of Iraq before the war," stated John Shaw, the former deputy undersecretary for international technology security. According to Shaw, Russian units hid Saddam's arsenal inside Syria and in Lebanon's Bekka valley.

The Iraqi General says it was passenger air liners stripped of their seats that were used to ship WMDs. Why not both?

6 posted on 01/28/2006 8:48:09 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Condimaniac)
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To: strategofr

This is an old rumor, which came out a few months after we invaded and didn't find anything. The former head of the Romanian KGB was the source of the news.


7 posted on 01/28/2006 8:49:59 PM PST by GarySpFc (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Txsleuth

"Notice that this was written a year ago...and yet not one MSM reporter/pundit has backed off the "there were NO WMDS", stance.

I don't think they will either.."

True. Bush could, if he chose to, bring it to everyone's attention. I'm not saying for sure he's wrong not to, but he might be.


8 posted on 01/28/2006 8:51:42 PM PST by strategofr (Hillary stole 1000+ secret FBI files on DC movers & shakers, Hillary's Secret War, Poe, p. xiv)
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To: Txsleuth

We'll never know what's the real truth, will we?


9 posted on 01/28/2006 8:52:12 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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So far we are hearing personal accounts of WMD movements, but have not seen concrete evidence to back it up. These reports would be wonderful if true. They would vindicate the President. BUT, we must have absolute proof. We do not know if these people are saying these things to make money, or to throw people off the trail, or just to get their names in the paper.

Personally, I believe we have the documentation to prove this from the millions of documents seized after the fall of Iraq and more proof from other means. When the President will allow these to be released (if never), we shall see. Until then, let's not get to enthusiastic. After all, it is to easy for the DeathoCrats to smear a report simply because it is done from personal knowledge and has no back up proof.

Documented proof is much tougher to smear, but we all know the DeathoCrats will attempt it when it happens (if ever).

10 posted on 01/28/2006 8:54:05 PM PST by technomage
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It could have been both...there was probably a heck of a lot to move in a short period of time...since they didn't know for sure when the US would invade..

Also, remember there were Russian officials still in Baghdad the day we invaded...and they barely got out.

I am sure they were trying to get rid of the evidence of their complicity in the WMD program and move.


11 posted on 01/28/2006 8:56:39 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: jb6; GarySpFc

Another in a list of what Putin has done bad...


12 posted on 01/28/2006 8:57:02 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: strategofr

It makes sense. I don't have confidence those ragheads could move those weapons without blowing themselves up. Explosives have a tendency to go off around these people, sometimes before they're ready.


13 posted on 01/28/2006 8:58:18 PM PST by Tall_Texan (The Democrat Party - emboldened by Hamas to combine terrorism with politics.)
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To: strategofr

I think there must be a security or political reason that Bush doesn't want to reveal what they know about the whereabout of the WMDs...

I think HE is more intent on winning the war on terror, and stabilising Iraq...than proving he was right...especially since at this point we can't get into Syria and look for them (if we haven't already gone and found them)...

Bush is looking LONG term...and I am sure there is a lot that the Pentagon and even the State Department are reluctant to be made known...

Kind of like the NSA wiretaps...


14 posted on 01/28/2006 8:59:57 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: stuartcr

Possiblity not, or not for a long time....there is just so much to do over there...and there may need to be some secrecy for a while.


15 posted on 01/28/2006 9:00:58 PM PST by Txsleuth
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Also, remember there were Russian officials still in Baghdad the day we invaded...and they barely got out.

Yes, I recall that story. Russian military advisors were detained (by either us or the Brits, can't recall which) with a carload of files they were spiriting out of Iraq.

16 posted on 01/28/2006 9:01:17 PM PST by randita
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To: strategofr

Perhaps. One wonders why the Bush administration would keep this under wraps....like why they killed all follow ups to Clinton misdeeds.


17 posted on 01/28/2006 9:02:39 PM PST by spyone
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To: Txsleuth

How would anything be proven?


18 posted on 01/28/2006 9:03:04 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Bookmaestro

ping


19 posted on 01/28/2006 9:04:06 PM PST by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: stuartcr

probably not.

My guess is that much of this stuff isn't even stored in Syria anymore, but the real nasty stuff eventually got moved to russia to either be destroyed or the russians gladly inherited it.

Anyone remember this story?

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/convoy.html



20 posted on 01/28/2006 9:06:26 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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