[Gondring]

Well, before sending me off to read, you can finish my own post, where I addressed your points in the last paragraph. Europe has allowed immigration to flood its cultures, for example. And are you not one who recognizes that if illegal immigration is lowered, wages of the lower pay scale will increase for Americans?

[MinorityRepublican]

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[MediaAnalyst]

...of course. But then you get into the Japanese model (which is virtually ignored by the MSM), where the population is in a huge tailspin, but with no immigrants, Muslim, legal, or otherwise, to make up for it. Japan now has to look across a small body of water at a China that is huge economically and militarily, and is getting larger, but Japan is virtually without anyone of fighting age (Japan is down to something like 0.95 kids per women, way below the 2.1 needed for population stability). That still doesn't work.

It still all comes back to to the incentives. To address an earlier comment of yours: Should a couple, childless through no fault of their own (or due their own choosing), be punished relative to a family that has kids. No. And what I talk about doesn't punish them, in that they can both have full-time careers, virtually without interruption, whereas a couple that does have children generally cannot have that option. So we level the playing field a bit and our society survives.