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...of course. But then you get into the Japanese model (which is virtually ignored by the MSM), where the population is in a huge tailspin, but with no immigrants, Muslim, legal, or otherwise, to make up for it. Japan now has to look across a small body of water at a China that is huge economically and militarily, and is getting larger, but Japan is virtually without anyone of fighting age (Japan is down to something like 0.95 kids per women, way below the 2.1 needed for population stability). That still doesn't work.

It still all comes back to to the incentives. To address an earlier comment of yours: Should a couple, childless through no fault of their own (or due their own choosing), be punished relative to a family that has kids. No. And what I talk about doesn't punish them, in that they can both have full-time careers, virtually without interruption, whereas a couple that does have children generally cannot have that option. So we level the playing field a bit and our society survives.

It still all comes back to to the incentives.

Yes, that's what the market operates on, but it's a perversion to use the word "incentives" to apply it to market-based implementation of a socialist policy.

What you're saying is that we penalize people who aren't blessed with children to subsidize those who are (i.e., charge the former higher taxes), and you support raising that subsidy even more.

What you need to ask yourself is why people have children, and what are the pros and cons of it. Why is there a lower need for couples to have children than in the past (many reason; hint for one: no longer so farm-based here in US)? Look beyond just using the market for implementation of central planning, and see if there are elements within it that we can learn from.

Should a couple, childless through no fault of their own (or due their own choosing), be punished relative to a family that has kids. No. And what I talk about doesn't punish them

Well, then, you're in favor of equal tax treatment and pay-for-what-you-use. Why didn't you say so to begin with?