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German women told: we need more babies
Telegraph UK ^ | January 28, 2006 | Kate Connolly

Posted on 01/28/2006 8:05:41 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

Chancellor Angela Merkel has pushed Germany's low birth rate to the top of the political agenda for the first time since the Nazi era as an expert said the nation could die out if the trend continued.

A third of German women are not having children, a remarkable figure even compared with low birth rates in the rest of Europe. Among graduates the figure is as high as 40 per cent.

Every year 100,000 more Germans die than are born and each generation is shrinking by about a third.

Even in the poverty and despair after the Second World War, more babies were born than now. The figure has slumped to 1.3 children per woman, far short of the replacement rate of 2.1.

Some observers attribute the trend to young people's reluctance to sacrifice their comfortable way of life and leisure time to bring up the next generation.

Others argue that German society expects women to stay at home to look after the family and that child care is inadequate and expensive.

Mrs Merkel, 51, is not the best role model: she has no children. Asked why, she said: "It just did not fit in with my career path."

But she is fully aware that the onus is on her, the country's first female leader, to improve the lot of women, raise the birth rate and put Germany back at the top as an economic power within a decade.

"If the birth rate continues to fall, Germans are at risk of dying out," said Harald Michel, the head of the Institute for Applied Demography. He foresees a future in which the workforce will be unable to support the elderly, nor indeed the country.

Past reluctance to tackle the problem is largely explained by the sensitivity of child-bearing in a country which, under the Nazis, did all it could to raise the birth rate for the state.

"The Nazi ideal of kinder, küche, kirche (children, kitchen, church) still prevails," said Jutta Schmidt, 33, a sociologist and mother of two children from Hamburg.

"The pressure on women to fulfil the maternal role, coupled with the lack of support to carry it out, such as part-time jobs and child care provision, is so great that many would rather forgo the opportunity than risk failure."

In Nazi times women were awarded motherhood medals for bearing children. Child bearing was strictly under the control of the state, not the individual.

Had Ursula von der Leyen, 47, been a mother in the Third Reich, she would have won the silver medal. She is a gynaecologist, a mother of seven and, as the family minister, is Mrs Merkel's greatest hope.

She says that Germany is "extremely backward" in its attitude towards the family. Unless the birth rate rises, "we will have to turn out the light".

Mrs von der Leyen, a member of the Christian Democratic Union, has offered women one-year wage replacement subsidies and to raise the amount of child care that can be offset against tax. But some of her proposals, such as encouraging fathers to stay at home for two months after the birth of a child, have provoked stiff opposition even from male party colleagues. They accuse her of wanting to "tie men to the nappies".

For many, child care and not money is at the root of the problem. The country that invented the kindergarten 170 years ago is pitifully lacking in child care places.

Only 10 per cent of children under three have access to pre-school care and most of those are sent home at noon, a 2001 study showed. In Denmark the figure is 64 per cent and in Britain 34 per cent.

The problem is exacerbated by employers who are unwilling to help workers with young children - and schools, most of which also close at noon.

"People have to give up their careers because there are no child care places," said Renate Köcher, the director of the Allensbach polling institute. "And because they have given up their jobs, we have neglected to create more child care places."

Germany is also a country in which everything happens comparatively late. The average starting school age is almost seven. University takes the best part of a decade to complete, so the average student is in her late twenties when she graduates.

Therefore, finding a job, particularly in these days of high unemployment, stands much higher on the list of priorities than having babies.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortions; birthrate; deathofthewest; germany; hightaxes; merkel; taxes
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To: Mike Darancette
"I thought being barefoot and pregnant was not having your lot improved."

Feminist indoctrination worked, didn't it? Too many women bought into that and it's taken its toll not only on children, but on women themselves. On men. On societies.

41 posted on 01/28/2006 9:00:39 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: brushcop

http://www.vhemt.org/

The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement

VHEMT
"May we live long and die out"

Phasing out the human race by voluntarily ceasing to breed will allow Earth's biosphere to return to good health. Crowded conditions and resource shortages will improve as we become less dense.


42 posted on 01/28/2006 9:03:30 PM PST by thoughtomator
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To: Giant Conservative
"Again, the fathers of the children should raise them."

My dad worked a full time job, a weekend job, was Town Councilman for 30 years. He had no problems raising me with my mother home full time. My father was my hero.

43 posted on 01/28/2006 9:04:18 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
"The Nazi ideal of kinder, küche, kirche (children, kitchen, church) still prevails," said Jutta Schmidt, 33, a sociologist and mother of two children from Hamburg.

Just what Nazi "church" was an "ideal"?? The 'Church of Satan'?

Typical. Another brainwashed "sociologist."

44 posted on 01/28/2006 9:04:37 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Giant Conservative
The Ossies had a very liberal abortion rate in the DDR, and the birth rate there was already very, very low when unification came. But socialism has always discouraged childbearing, because they want to weaken the family and the church, and any other mediate institution between the individual and the state.
45 posted on 01/28/2006 9:04:49 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
liberals and muslims are whos been taking control.

Exactly.

More precisely, leftists have been allowed to thrive for years at great expense to the decent and virtuous patriots who sustain their frivolity. They have created a culture that liberals and conservatives alike find unfulfilling and unworthy of preservation or sacrifice. The result has been a hopeless dulling of our senses, the emasculation of personal will, the vilifying of basic humanity... Oprahfication all-around.

Many believe their undermining behavior to be the innocent and beautiful blessings of freedom, a post-war fulfillment of dreams envied by those who would never live to see them.

I personally operate by the view that leftist degeneration is a conspiracy, or a conscious and willful plan... at the very least a spiteful, childish answer to the greatness liberals cannot match against their hard-headed conservative peers and forefathers. They know how they suck, and their only wish is to bring you and I down as well.

Well they have opened the gates wide to any beast that may wish to consume us. Islam just happens to be one of many wild creatures, and probably not the only monster long-waiting to pounce.

46 posted on 01/28/2006 9:11:01 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: MinorityRepublican
Some observers attribute the trend to young people's reluctance to sacrifice their comfortable way of life and leisure time to bring up the next generation. Others argue that German society expects women to stay at home to look after the family and that child care is inadequate and expensive.

Every country with "social security" has a problem with women having children. And the more "social security" the more problem. It's not that women have kids to help them in their old age or to offer protection from life's ups and downs ... wait...oh, well, never mind.

47 posted on 01/28/2006 9:11:38 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: SteveMcKing

I like how you think. Excellent!


48 posted on 01/28/2006 9:14:52 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: john drake

AMEN!


49 posted on 01/28/2006 9:16:36 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: SteveMcKing

Beautifully said, Steve.


50 posted on 01/28/2006 9:17:46 PM PST by lesser_satan
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To: Giant Conservative

True, but I left some details out. First, you have to require that the families be intact, with a man and woman as parents (probably a hate crime violation there - or at least their MSM would call it such). And, maybe, require that at least one of the spouses have a useful college degree, or a real job.

The real difference is that the government (and the people) actually would appreciate people getting paid for this activity, rather than being looked at as leeches. It has to be treated as a credible profession. It would be entirely different.


51 posted on 01/28/2006 9:18:22 PM PST by MediaAnalyst
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To: MinorityRepublican

Where is Katarina Witt these days?????


52 posted on 01/28/2006 9:19:10 PM PST by TurnerBrown (I'm not going to fire a $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. --GWB)
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To: 0siris

Your all heart man. A true giver.



53 posted on 01/28/2006 9:19:51 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: MediaAnalyst
"It has to be treated as a credible profession."

As it used to be? I'm not comfortable with the state assigning a financial amount to having or raising children. That's a slippery slope.

54 posted on 01/28/2006 9:26:17 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: TheCrusader

Yes and Bucanhan was denounced as a terrible racist to saying the truth. Man, I wonder if it is too late for European people to change course and create a future. My theory is that they will not because they are self hating and sucidal. They never questioned liberalism's anti-white hatred. Sucked it all in like guppies.


55 posted on 01/28/2006 9:28:57 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: metmom
Then the muslimes can take over when the last of the Germans are gone.

And under "multiculturalism", that is just fine because every culture and ethnicity is equally valid and there is no reason to resist replcing one with another. What they fail to tell you is that "multiculturalism" is not a permanent virtue but only a temporary condition before diverse people in close proximity in the long run either mix into one or one group replaces the other without racial and cultural exceptionalism and strict miscegenation taboos to prevent it.
56 posted on 01/28/2006 9:32:42 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I lived in Germany for three years.

The frauleins are generally Ten Ten Ten, get the picture?

Gosh those German women are so beautiful.

Those German men seem rather wanting.....


57 posted on 01/28/2006 9:32:52 PM PST by Radix (Welcome home 3 ID!)
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To: MinorityRepublican
"He foresees a future in which the workforce will be unable to support the elderly, nor indeed the country."

Such is the classical failure of socialism.

When governments get greedy so that both partners of a marriage have to work just to survive (politicians love it when they do because then they have twice the number of salaries to tax and use to buy more votes), there is a definite reluctance to produce more wards of the state in the form of children.

And, this does not even address the threat that liberals and socialists impose on parents that they will lose their kids if they don't raise them in the state-approved way.

58 posted on 01/28/2006 9:35:44 PM PST by nightdriver
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To: purpleland
The anointed are getting their wish -the death of the West. They think that the barbarians who take power won't murder the atheists, deconstructionists and degenerates. No fictional account could be as astonishing.
59 posted on 01/28/2006 9:40:37 PM PST by ashtanga
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To: MinorityRepublican; mikrofon; martin_fierro

Ich bin ein Birthliner.


60 posted on 01/28/2006 9:41:55 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Ich bin ein Tagliner.)
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