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Muslims rally against liquor sales (Oakland,CA)
Oakland Tribune ^ | 01/28/2006 | William Brand

Posted on 01/28/2006 6:35:09 PM PST by csvset

OAKLAND - A march and rally to protest the sale of alcohol at Muslim-owned stores and the proliferation of the corner stores in poor neighborhoods of Oakland drew Muslims from around the Bay Area to downtown Oakland Saturday.

``This is something we've thought about and talked about for a long time,'' said Zachary Twist, of Hayward and Oakland, one of the organizers of the coalition Muslims for a Healthy Community.

The attack on two West Oakland liquor stores last year by men objecting to the sale of alcohol brought the issue forward, Twist said. ``But that is something we totally disagree with. Vigilantism is totally prohibited.''

But when you look at the statistics, 90 percent of Oakland's 350 liquor stores are owned or operated by Muslims - it's amazing and upsetting, Twist said.

``Our religion is crystal clear about alcohol,'' said Kamal Siddiqui, of Berkeley. ''It is forbidden.''

``We're not talking about prohibition, about banning liquor,'' she said. ``We are talking first and foremost to our fellow Muslims who are selling alcohol. They need to stop, and start selling fresh produce instead,'' Siddiqui said.

The rally ended with Muslim prayers led by clerics, including Mohammed Rajabally, president of the Islamic Society of the East Bay in Fremont, and Zaki Zareef, of Jamma-Tussalaam Community of Peace in Oakland.

It was an unusual sight for Oakland: nearly 150 worshipers, facing East, prone in front of City Hall.

This is just the beginning, one participant said. ``We want to work with other groups, like the black ministers, and others,'' he said.

The day began with a march from DeFremmery Park at 17th and Adeline Street to Frank Ogawa Plaza in front of City Hall. The march and rally were planned by Muslims and mosque officers from all over the Bay Area.

But initially, it looked like a march by supporters and associates of Your Black Muslim Bakery, Inc. The march of 75 men, women and children, was preceded by three luxury cars, a Chevrolet Suburban, a Lexus and a BMW, each carrying distinctive red and white crescent flags.

A phalanx of men in black coats ran alongside the cars, ahead of the marchers. The group stopped at liquor stores along the route, and Your Black Muslim Bakery representatives stationed themselves like sentries at the door of each store.

But Muslims from other organizations , speaking mostly in Arabic, talked to store owners and clerks, asking them why they continued to sell alcohol. At the first store, Sunbeam Market at Adeline and 14th Street, Moenssor Ghanan just smiled.

But when they left, Ghanan, who came to Oakland 20 years ago from Yemen, said he is a Muslim. He does not drink, but he sells alcohol because his customers want it.

``Alcohol is legal and I'm licensed by the state of California to sell it,'' he said.

At the next store, Bottles Liquor at 1150 Market, a store clerk, whose family owns the business, argued vehemently with his questioner, Iman Zaid Shakur, in Arabic and English. ``I know I'm wrong, selling alcohol. I'll pay someday,'' the clerk, who asked that his name not be used, said.

``But,'' he insisted, ``why do you go after us. Why don't you go to Safeway? They sell a lot more than we do. Are you willing to go there?''

Shakur said yes in a low voice.

A customer, Dave Brown, said he had been coming into the store for years. ``This store is owned by a family just trying to make a living; they have a right do that,'' he said. ``What they're selling is legal.''

At the third store, S&A Market at 14th and Jefferson streets, Ali Abraham, a former store owner, argued heatedly with two Muslims. ``People in America have a right to protest,'' he said. ``But there is also a law. We didn't invent democracy, but we're not excluded either,'' he said.

``Why do you go after us, weak, poor Arabs with no support, no backing?'' Abraham asked.

One of the Muslims, Abdullah Abdur-Rahman, who said he was from the suburbs, said alcohol sale in poor neighborhoods is a deep-rooted problem. ``You see these stores on every street corner.''

For more information about the Bay Area Muslim coalition, call (510) 868-8318 or email: muslims4hc@emailus.org.

Contact William Brand at: bbrand@angnewspapers.com



TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alcohol; blackmuslims; islamofacists; islamofacsim; jerrybrown; monnbeamtown; muslimamericans; oakland
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To: Itzlzha
This is what Islam is...and the sooner we begin to FIGHT these Islamazi both here and abroad, the sooner we can remove them from the Planet, and end the threat to Humanity they are!

Unfortunately, we simply cannot co-exist with these people. They don't understand freedom and personal liberty.

21 posted on 01/28/2006 6:56:22 PM PST by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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To: csvset

22 posted on 01/28/2006 6:56:55 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Libertarians are Anarchists who bathe.)
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To: csvset
This already happened in southern Maine:

Hospital 'johnny' redesigned because of Somalis' complaints
By David Sharp, Associated Press Writer | August 8, 2004

PORTLAND, Maine -- Everyone who has been hospitalized or has undergone an outpatient procedure knows -- and probably loathes -- the skimpy, ill-fitting, one-size-fits-none hospital gown.

Maine Medical Center finally decided to do something about it upon discovering that Muslim women accustomed to being fully covered were skipping appointments to avoid the immodest garments.

The redesigned hospital gown made available to all Maine Medical patients six weeks ago leaves them fully covered.

"This is a great example of a challenge raised by a specific community that can ultimately benefit all patients," said Dana Farris Gaya, manager of interpreter and cross-cultural services.

The "johnny," as it's known across New England, is the butt of jokes because of the discomfort it causes patients. Typically, it's a short gown tied in the back, often leaving one's backside exposed.

Of course, the johnny was not designed with patient comfort in mind. And the institutional garment has endured in large part, despite patient complaints and various efforts to improve upon the design.

At Maine Medical Center, administrators decided they had to act last November after the hospital identified a high no-show rate for Muslim women from African countries, particularly Somalia.

As many as three out of 10 women were skipping their appointments, said Osman Hersi, a medical interpreter at the hospital.

Tracked down at home, the women whose religion and culture requires them to be covered described to interpreters the horror of being asked to wear the revealing gowns during outpatient procedures.

Furthermore, they were publicly humiliated when they had to wait in a hallway in the radiology department.

"I have witnessed their misery and how bad they feel about it. They don't like it. They feel ashamed. It's very embarrassing," said Asha Abdulleh, a medical interpreter and native of Kenya.

The dress code for Muslim women is derived from the holy book, the Quran. Followers say teachings on modesty require women to cover themselves from head to toe. Only the hands and the face may be exposed. Many believe that their beauty should be reserved only for husbands.

On a recent morning, Shamso Abdi appeared for her first hospital visit since arriving in Portland.

She and her husband, Aden Ali, came to the United States from Mogadishu, Somalia. They lived in a small town in Kentucky, and then Columbus, Ohio, before coming to Portland.

Abdi, who was clothed in a dress, a sarong and a hijab, a scarf wrapped around her head, said she had canceled appointments in Columbus when she had to see male doctors and wear a johnny.

The "new" johnny created by the Maine Medical Center is long enough to provide more coverage of a patient's legs and has extra material to ensure that a patient's backside remains covered. Underneath, there's a wraparound sarong for even more coverage.

Abdi said she was grateful to see that Maine Medical had created a patient gown with her principles in mind.

"I'm so happy they made the change. I'm so happy that they considered us," she said, speaking through an interpreter.

Maine Medical, which has put the new johnnies on all garment carts for patients who request them, isn't the only hospital to try to create a patient gown that is more acceptable to patients.

Hackensack University Medical Center in New Jersey introduced vibrant colors and funky patterns five years ago.

Other hospitals and garment producers have tweaked the traditional designs with snaps, velcro and other changes.

But the traditional johnny will never go away entirely. In some situations, in emergency rooms for example, it's more important to put the interests of doctors and nurses ahead of the interests of patients.

But for many situations, it makes sense to keep patients happy.

And physicians, nurses and other health care providers from the international clinic were at a loss to explain at their weekly meeting why it took so long to produce a patient-friendly johnny.

"Why didn't we think of this so long ago?" said Dr. Nat James, an internal medicine physician at the international clinic.

 

23 posted on 01/28/2006 6:59:00 PM PST by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: jazusamo
``Our religion is crystal clear about alcohol,'' said Kamal Siddiqui
that's funny actually, I lived is Saudi Arabia for 18 months, and the home brewed alcohol is called siddiqui, which means friend.
24 posted on 01/28/2006 6:59:13 PM PST by txroadhawg ("Stuck on stupid? I invented stupid! " Al Gore)
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To: csvset

yet muslims are the main source of heroin production for the globe.


25 posted on 01/28/2006 6:59:54 PM PST by wildcatf4f3 (the friend of my enemy is my enemy)
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To: Lurker
We are talking first and foremost to our fellow Muslims who are selling alcohol

"...and then after these we will go after the infidel liquor stores..."

First and foremeost - secondarily is not far behind.

So what is anyone prepared to do to stop this strong-arming of business owners?

26 posted on 01/28/2006 6:59:56 PM PST by corkoman (Uncompassionate Conservative, (incompassionate?, non-compassionate?))
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To: txroadhawg


That is pretty ironic.


27 posted on 01/28/2006 7:00:52 PM PST by jazusamo (A Progressive is only a Socialist in a transparent disguise.)
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To: csvset

We can actually learn something helpful from the Muslim community on this. If we want to affect change, we need to clean up our own act first.


28 posted on 01/28/2006 7:01:25 PM PST by greatvikingone
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To: trubluolyguy
And so it begins. Soon enough they will demand all women Muslim or not wear head covers or just out and out Burka's.

This isn't France.

29 posted on 01/28/2006 7:01:37 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: trubluolyguy

If they don't like it here, they can leave. This is a free country whether they like it or not. I really think they're clueless about American mentality. They don't realize the backlash that's going to occur if they try to pursue it. It really was just a matter of time before they started trying something like this. What's unsettling is that I see this as a *testing the waters* kind of thing to see just how much they can get away with and see if they're strong enough to try to really take over.


30 posted on 01/28/2006 7:01:48 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: csvset

I hope there were plenty of FBI and DHS guys there as well..


31 posted on 01/28/2006 7:02:29 PM PST by cardinal4
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To: csvset
Where's Mayor Moonbeam at? What's his take on this ?

Well, SF seems to be OK with banning handguns and cigarettes (OK, the sale of cigs is legal, but give it time), so why not alcohol? Oh, that's right--because alcohol is something liberals like.

32 posted on 01/28/2006 7:04:00 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: csvset

Obviously not all muslims are muslims..


33 posted on 01/28/2006 7:06:26 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: SheLion

Well, now there is something I CAN live with. I spent more than enough time in those indecent, drafty hospital gowns when I had my kids and would have been glad to have something that modest. So why did it take the muslimes complaining about it to get something done? American citizens aren't good enough, I guess.


34 posted on 01/28/2006 7:07:42 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: csvset

This is America. If you have a position on an issue, support it. But don't burn down stores to get your way. This is not the Middle East, nor is it a thugocracy.


35 posted on 01/28/2006 7:08:22 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: mtbopfuyn

The prohibition movement was big in America the Free a hundred years ago. It only went to far when it was banned nationally. Even then it was more effective than its opponents ever conceded. Even after it ended in 1933, the level of drinking remained below 1900 levels until the propserity of the '50s. That's because local option kept much of the country dry.
It also had the effect of squelching the trade in drugs. That didn't come back into the fifties either, being confined largely to honkeytonks and jazz bars.


36 posted on 01/28/2006 7:09:27 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: csvset

These are the same terrorists that vandalized several liquor stores about a month ago. They are like the 'militias' in Iraq 'controlling' their territory.

Reminds me of a pack of dogs marking their territory.


37 posted on 01/28/2006 7:09:52 PM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascism)
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To: metmom
What's unsettling is that I see this as a *testing the waters* kind of thing to see just how much they can get away with and see if they're strong enough to try to really take over.

Of course. The United States and Israel are the only two countries that have the fortitude to stand up to them; take us out and the rest is cake.

38 posted on 01/28/2006 7:10:02 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: csvset

Hypocrits ! How often did you say in the 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's that if the blacks stepped up and pushed back on the negative influences on the black community it would be a proud, worthwhile moment ? A group takes responsibility for managing outside influences on its culture and you condemn ? A persons worth is measured by his response to what impacts his society. God bless them for their fortitude.


39 posted on 01/28/2006 7:11:16 PM PST by Non Bri
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To: Non Bri
A group takes responsibility for managing outside influences on its culture and you condemn ?

It's culture?......this is America.

40 posted on 01/28/2006 7:13:57 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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