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Israel Beseiged and WWIII

Posted on 01/28/2006 1:37:53 PM PST by stand4somethin

The Hamas landslide was not a suprise to everyone. When Yasser Arafat finally keeled over last year (thanks be to Allah) it left a power vaccum. Sharon's giving away Israeli townships really iced the deal. Some have suggested that Sharon knew what he was doing and this is precisely what he wanted... to reveal the terrorists' facade. I am not sure whether he anticipated this or not. Anyhow... Israel is currently in a war. It is akin to a war of beseigement like was practiced upon cities regularly until about a century ago (with even a few recent examples). When you think things are peaceful enough... that is actually just because the beseigers are taking their time to grow in strength while the beseiged are very limited in ability to grow stronger and most often grow weaker. Of course things are a little more complex here because Israel has a weapon I call "the great equalizer."

The US is also at war! The same war. The same type of war. GW knows this but can't talk about it openly because it strengthens our enemy. What is happening in the Palestine and Iran right now is proving that Pres. Bush was correct. The "Iraq thing" is a shake-up. Maybe it (democracy) works but I wouldn't put my money on it. It was a long shot...probably mostly an attempt at destabilization of the region.

I think we are at a late date in the beseigement... soon the rockets will be flying... get ready!!!

The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving. Ulysses S. Grant (1822 - 1885)


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KEYWORDS: fatah; hamas; israel; paelection; palestine; sharon; war

1 posted on 01/28/2006 1:37:53 PM PST by stand4somethin
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To: stand4somethin

Great place to insert a Nostradamus thread.

R.


2 posted on 01/28/2006 1:39:36 PM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: stand4somethin

This war will likely last for decades. We know the liberals don't understand that, I sure hope many more than GW does or the rusults could be fatal to our republic!


3 posted on 01/28/2006 1:42:20 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: stand4somethin
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4 posted on 01/28/2006 1:46:18 PM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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To: stand4somethin
Maybe it (democracy) works but I wouldn't put my money on it. It was a long shot...probably mostly an attempt at destabilization of the region.

I don't agree with that statement. I do think democracy in the MidEast is really the best way to fight terror. Islamofascists have an ideology. The only real way to fight an ideology is with another, preferrably better, one. People of the MidEast ultimately will have to choose between the Islamic Extremist ideology and the American self-rule election ideology. I think the majority of them would choose self-rule rather than Islamic extremism (the terrorists' latest messages reveal they are feeling increasingly isolated thanks to the Iraqi elections).

But there are exceptions in the Middle East, as is the case with the recent Palestinian election and also the outcry against the missile strikes in Pakistan. Those people want to choose Islamic extremism, and ultimately, our fight will be with them, also.
5 posted on 01/28/2006 1:47:43 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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6 posted on 01/28/2006 1:51:49 PM PST by airborne
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To: pcottraux

Great point... I strongly prefer democracy in the Middle East. Maybe it can happen and it is definitely worth an effort. I just wouldn't put my money on it. Yet this willingness to try something is a definite difference between President Bush and the Democratic leadership who we all know to be void of any ideas other than appeasement.


7 posted on 01/28/2006 1:59:39 PM PST by stand4somethin
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To: ASA Vet

I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.

Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)


8 posted on 01/28/2006 2:07:07 PM PST by stand4somethin
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
This war will likely last for decades.

The war hasn't yet begun. We are in the preliminary stages of war...the military politics. The war itself will be fast and vicious. More like 1967 than what we are seeing today.

All of this will be nothing but a memory ten years down the road.
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9 posted on 01/28/2006 2:17:27 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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Is anyone else wondering what Israeli defense and predator drones has to do with SDI? I am stunned by what we pulled off in Pakistan, have heard mentions of Israeli anti-missle defense, and am intrigued that Karl Rove used the term virtual border the other day. When I was on Fulbright to Israel, the minister who ran the program kept saying. "You Americans should be glad that we test out your new weapons systems. Everytime you hear that sound, that means jobs for Boeing."


10 posted on 01/28/2006 3:21:02 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: stand4somethin

It is very much worth the effort.

I think when looking at Democracy in the MidEast, you have to kind of divide things up. Some areas will be receptive to the hope America is willing to give; others will not. Pakistanis clearly wants nothing to do with American influence. Palestinians are choosing "the dark side." And I think in areas like that, fascist Islam ideology rules the peoples' thinking.

But in other areas like Afghanistan (and I believe most of Iraq), and hopefully Iran and Lebanon, the people of the country are exhausted from years of war, fighting, bloodshed, and terrorism. The people want nothing to do with radical Islam and they've seen what brutality and tyranny can do. And I think in places like that, people are far more receptive to what America has to offer.


11 posted on 01/28/2006 3:27:38 PM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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