Posted on 01/27/2006 8:28:01 AM PST by joan
Are we still there? Quagmire?
He said that Croatia was establishing illegal paramilitary formations in order to attack the JNA and ethnically cleanse Croatia of its Serbian population. He testified that the weapons Croatia received were being smuggled in from Hungary.To bear this point out he read passages from Stepjan Mesics book, which was originally entitled, How I Broke-Up Yugoslavia. Mesic, at the suggestion of Genscher, later changed the title to How Yugoslavia Broke Up. But in his book he openly discusses how he allowed Croatian paramilitaries to illegally seize weapons from JNA warehouses and how he let them attack the JNA at the time that he was a member of the SFRY presidency.
To further bear this point out Milosevic played an explosive videotape that had been filmed by the 12th detachment of the Yugoslav Armys counterintelligence service (KOS).
The video, filmed in 1990 and broadcast on Yugoslav TV in January 1991, showed a conversation between Tudjmans defense Minister Martin Spegelj and his Interior Minister Josip Boljkovac.
The two men are seen discussing preparations for war with the JNA. They discuss the importation of weapons from Hungary and how they will murder JNA soldiers and their families. Spegelj says We will kill them on their doorstep. No one will be allowed to reach the barracks alive.
Spegelj and Boljkovac agreed that killing women and children was OK. They discuss how grenades should be thrown into the family homes of JNA servicemen and that no concern should be given to killing women and children.
Boljkovac discusses how JNA servicemen will be murdered in their barracks. He says, shove a pistol in their stomach -- one shot and that will be the end of them.
The two men also discuss their plans to deal with the Serbian population. They discuss how they will destroy Knin and Spegelj boasts, Knin will never be Knin again. Serbs will never be in Croatia when weve finished.
Mind you this was all filmed in 1990 BEFORE the war broke out and BEFORE the establishment of the Republic of Serbian Krajina (RSK).
As an American I found it particularly disturbing to see Spegelj and Boljkovac discussing the support they were receiving from the U.S. Government. They discussed how, the day after Milosevic was elected in Serbia, the U.S. Government contacted them to offer combat vehicles and assorted military equipment.
This video proves beyond any doubt that the Serbian war objective in Croatia was self-defense. In light of this sort of material, any theories offered by the prosecution about greater Serbia, or Serb "aggression" against Croatia are exposed as pure nonsense. The Krajina Serbs had to go to war they had no choice the video makes it clear that Croatia was planning to finish what it started during World War II.
The U.S. is always on the side of those who harm Serbs - kill them, ethnically cleanse them, steal their land or simply harass them.
Kostic testified that Nazi émigrés were brought back to Croatia under Tudjmans regime. Tudjman even appointed some of them to government posts.
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Despicable neanderthal bunch...then I remember what the Clinton-socialist cabal did. Depressing.
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Croatia/Sieg-Heil-Cro.html
So, did they shoot movies of the videotape? Who writes these headlines?
Another claim that was debunked during the re-examination was the prosecutions assertion that the OSCE/KVM leadership was politically neutral. To the dismay of the prosecution, Milosevic produced a petition he had obtained from the web site of the AAK (Ramush Haradinajs political party). The petition, which called for an Independent Kosova, was signed by none other than William Walker the former head of the OSCE/KVM.Milosevic also had the witness read out the minutes taken at meetings between OSCE/KVM personnel and Yugoslav Army personnel. The information derived from these minutes directly refutes several assertions contained in OSCE publications, such as As Seen As Told, and the so-called blue book.
Joan...good post. The depth of treachery these people (croats, bush1, clinton) are capable of is mind boggling. Tiny Serbia who fought at our side in both world wars at a terrible cost in lives to be so cruelly betrayed is unacceptible. Makes me want to kill something.
Our typical gang of Serb-hating goose steppers really aren't going to like hearing this. Be on the look-out for the first round of "Deny, deny, deny! Mr. Soros says differently!"
The father of the Racak massacre rears one of his heads.
Ping
This also plays nicely into Gotovina's trial, the enigma continues.
They conducted a vigorous PR campaign against Serbs in order to bolster the political position in the international community.
I am no expert on what has transpired there in the last 100 years.
I guess kimosabe31 and Former Lib hit a nerve. I get defensive when I hear Croatia bashing. From my point of view, I don't get it. Are the Serbs any better?
Do you mean that all Serbs deserve to be murdered because there are some bad Serbs? I hope not, but that it what we witnessed during the ethnic cleansing of the Krajina and now we see more and more evidence that it was all planned and staged by a group of criminals (who happen to be Croatian). The ethnicity of either group does not pardon what was done here.
Don't take things too personally bro, you've been too far removed from the Balkans soap opera to worry about any personal hang ups. Peace bro.
What we are seeing is that Milosevich is being blamed for everything bad that happened during/since the break-up of Yugoslavia when it really was all of the Communist thugs (Slobo, Tudjman, Izebegovich, Thaci). The truth is coming out and it's making some people very uncomfortable.
Particularly since the West decided that everyone fighting against the Serbs was a good guy and lent their assistance. At best, it makes them look stupid; at worst, who's to say?
What is undeniable is that the Serb civilians have taken the brunt of the punishment and they were guilty of nothing other than being Serb (which is enough for some).
Croatian nazis were vile beasts... and there were quite a few of them killing Serbs, Jews and Gypsies.
You are an American right? Did you know that the Serbians in WWII called Chetniks saved over 500 American flyers shot down over Yugoslavia by the Germans after those Americans had bombed oil fields in Romania that the German Army relied on.
It IS a fact that Croatia ethnically tried to clear Croatia of Serbian Christians both in WWII and in civil war that broke up Yugoslavia.
And, APPARENTLY they planned to clear Croatia of Serbs BEFORE there was ever a shot fired in the most recent war!!
CROATIANS( and Bosnians) HAVE DIRTY HANDS in this recent war and yet... ONLY Serbs get tried for crimes
THIS IS JUST UNFAIR!! Plain and simple.
IF crimes were committed by political leaders, HAUL ALL THEIR ASSh-l-s BEFORE A COURT!!
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