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IL: Gun Violence Victims Rally Around Governor's Proposal [Re: Ban Assault Weapons]
US Newswire Press Release ^ | 1/25/06 | Jennifer Bishop

Posted on 01/26/2006 3:17:53 PM PST by kiriath_jearim

Gun Violence Victims Rally Around Governor's Proposal to Get Assault Weapons Off Illinois Streets

1/25/2006 3:03:00 PM

News Advisory:

Gun violence victims from all over Cook County, outraged with the NRA's efforts to keep dangerous assault weapons on our streets, are gathering Thursday, January 26 at the James Jordan Boys and Girls Family Life Center for a press conference calling on state legislators to pass HB 2414.

The press conference will begin at 10 a.m. at 2102 W. Monroe in Chicago. Injured law enforcement officers, Chicago residents left disabled by gun violence, gun assault victims, mothers and fathers of murdered sons and daughters, assault weapon victims' family members, and a prominent victim author, will join with representatives of Governor Blagojevich, States Attorney Richard Devine, the Illinois Million Mom March, the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence, Cook County Victim advocates, Schwab Rehabilitation Center, and the Illinois State Police, to call for the passage of HB 2414.

"Illinois citizens overwhelmingly understand the need to remove these vicious weapons from our neighborhoods," gun violence victim and Brady Field Director Jennifer Bishop said. "The extremist agenda of the gun lobby to keep assault weapons with high capacity magazines, and .50 caliber sniper rifles, with enough fire power to kill from a mile away, on our streets is something that we just have to stop. The thousands of Illinois gun violence victims will not stand for it."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; bradywatch

1 posted on 01/26/2006 3:17:54 PM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

"...assault weapons with high capacity magazines, and .50 caliber sniper rifles."

Wonder how many of these people died from assault weapons and sniper rifles.

Guessing a very small number.

If true, then this law would do nothing. Except make everyone feel good and restrict an important constitutional right.


2 posted on 01/26/2006 3:24:34 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: kiriath_jearim

I'd love to be able to shoot at someone a mile away,
of course they'd only be about this . big so it would
have to be a kind of Zen thing.

These morons are pathetic.


3 posted on 01/26/2006 3:28:19 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

At least it will give work to a translator. Without them, all we'd hear from the speakers at this event would be "baaaah, baaaaah, baaaaaaaaah". Sheeple.


4 posted on 01/26/2006 3:31:14 PM PST by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

They will never rally to ban the rap/hiphop/gangbang "culture" behind all their problems, after all, they know where their votes are coming from!
We have "Freepers", who will defend Michael Jackson's "talent", for goodness sakes!
If you can't really "groove" on Beethoven, big time, just go the hell, away!
Conan O'Brien has a program for you!
Speaking of "Conan", has anyone ever been prosecuted for dropping him on his head, in the delivery room?


5 posted on 01/26/2006 3:36:10 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (MAY I DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.


6 posted on 01/26/2006 3:38:35 PM PST by umgud (uncompassionate conservative)
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To: dhs12345
Don't these people know that the gun violence goes up when the law abiding citizen is denied the means to protect himself/herself from the non law abiding criminals.

Support the Illinois legislature in passing a concealed carry law in Illinois...demand your constitutional rights to keep and bear arms.

Vote the radical gun grabbers out of office.

7 posted on 01/26/2006 3:40:18 PM PST by chainsaw ( ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - H. Clinton))
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To: kiriath_jearim

I don't think these people would know what an assualt weapon or a .50 cal. sniper rifle is. When are they going to wake up and figure out that PEOPLE kill PEOPLE guns don't.


8 posted on 01/26/2006 4:33:33 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270, God Bless America and All Who Have and Will Defend Her.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

The victims MUST have MININUM success, the perps MUST have MAXIMUM success!! It's the law. Live with it!!!


9 posted on 01/26/2006 5:39:08 PM PST by Waco
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To: kiriath_jearim
Getting The Facts STRAIGHT About "Assault Weapons"


FACT: "Assault Weapons" are RARELY ever used in crimes -

Guns Used In Crimes (Before The Federal "Assault Weapon" Ban):
10 Most Frequently Traced Guns Used In Crimes In 1994:

1) Lorcin P25 (pistol)
2) Davis Ind. P380 (pistol)
3) Raven Arms MP25 (pistol)
4) Lorcin L25 (pistol)
5) Mossberg 500 (shotgun)
6) Phoenix Arms Raven (pistol)
7) Jennings J22 (pistol)
8) Ruger P89 (pistol)
9) Glock 17 (pistol)
10) Bryco 38 (pistol)
* Not A Single "Assault Weapon" On That List.

Guns Used In Crimes (Six Years AFTER The Federal "Assault Weapon" Ban:
10 Most Frequently Traced Guns Used in Crimes In 2000:

1. Smith and Wesson .38 (revolver)
2. Ruger 9 mm semiautomatic (pistol)
3. Lorcin Engineering .380 semiautomatic (pistol)
4. Raven Arms .25 semiautomatic (pistol)
5. Mossberg 12 gauge (shotgun)
6. Smith and Wesson 9mm semiautomatic (pistol)
7. Smith and Wesson .357 (revolver)
8. Bryco Arms 9mm semiautomatic (pistol)
9. Bryco Arms .380 semiautomatic (pistol)
10. Davis Industries .380 semiautomatic (pistol)
* Not A Single "Assault Weapon" On That List.



According to the most recent detailed report, Dept. of Justice; Firearm Use by Offender...

FACT: "Assault weapons" are RARELY possessed by criminals during commission of a crime -
State and Federal prison inmates armed during the crime for which they are being incarcerated:
* 9.9% of state and 7.3% of federal inmates possessed "single-shot" firearms.
* 7.9% of state and 7.7% of federal inmates possessed conventional semiautomatic firearm.
* Only 1.5% of state and 1.7% of federal inmates possessed military-style semi-auto or full-auto firearms.

FACT: "Assault weapons" are RARELY involved in ANY crimes -
State and Federal prison inmates who have ever possessed firearms during ANY crime: (table 2)
* 14.2% of state and 10.6% of federal inmates possessed "single-shot" firearm during ANY crime.
* 10.9% of state and 9.8% of federal inmates possessed conventional semiautomatic firearm during ANY crime.
* Only 2.5% of state and 2.3% of federal inmates possessed military-style semi-auto or full-auto firearms during ANY crime.

FACT: "Assault weapons" possessed by criminals during crimes are usually obtained ILLEGALLY -
Of State prison inmates who possessed military-style semi-auto or full-auto firearms in crimes for which they are incarcerated:
* 48.5% obtained them through illegal sources (theft, drug dealer, black market, etc.)
* 25.2% obtained them from family or friend.
* 19.3% obtained them from retail sale.
* 1.9% obtained them from gun shows.

Also from the same source DOJ source:

FACT: "Assault weapons" that are possessed during a crime are the LEAST LIKELY type of firearm to be actually discharged during the crime.

FACT: "Assault weapons" that are possessed during a crime are the LEAST LIKELY type of firearm to be used to injure the victim.

FACT: "Assault weapons" that are possessed during a crime are the LEAST LIKELY type of firearm to be used to kill the victim.

"ASSAULT WEAPONS" HAVE NEVER BEEN A SIGNIFICANT FACTOR IN GUN-CRIMES.



FACT: "Assault Weapons are RARELY ever used to kill police officers -
Firearm Calibers Most Often Used To Kill Police Officers:
Firearm Caliber and % Of LEOs Killed -
* .38 caliber handgun - 25.2%
* .357 magnum handgun - 12.1%
* 9mm handgun - 9.5%
* 12 gauge shotgun - 7.4%
* .22 caliber handgun - 5.4%
* .22 caliber rifle - 4.4%



FACT: The Federal "Assault Weapon" Ban Did NOT Reduce The Number Of Officers Killed In The Line Of Duty -

Six years prior to "Assault Weapon" Ban:
Year....Total LEOs Killed...By Handguns...By Other Guns...By Other Methods

1988..................78.......................63......................13....................2
1989..................66.......................40......................17....................9
1990..................66.......................48........................9....................9
1991..................71.......................50......................18....................3
1992..................64.......................44......................11....................9
1993..................70.......................50......................17....................3
TOTALS........415......................295......................85..................35

Six years after "Assault Weapon" Ban:
Year....Total LEOs Killed...By Handguns...By Other Guns...By Other Methods

1995..................74.......................43......................19...................12
1996..................61.......................50........................7....................4
1997..................70.......................49......................18....................3
1998..................61.......................40......................18....................3
1999..................42.......................25......................16....................1
2000..................51.......................33......................14....................4
TOTALS........355......................240......................92..................26

CHANGE......(-14%)................(-19%)...............(+8%)...........(-26%)

Source: US Dept. Justice, Law Enforcement Officers Feloniously Killed
* The number of police killed by non-handgun firearms (which includes "assault weapons") has NOT decreased since the passing of the "assault weapon" ban in 1994 but in fact has INCREASED since the passage of the AWB.

This comes despite the decrease in the number of LEOs killed by all other means INCLUDING handguns. So if the Antis want to use the decline in police officers killed by handguns to support their claim that handgun laws work and that we need more - they should also admit that the "assault weapon" ban has FAILED and should be abandoned. But no, the Antis NEVER fail, they just keep going, facts be damned. Facts that coincidentally support their flawed thinking are touted as "PROOF" that gun laws work. Facts that clearly refute their irrational thinking are simply ignored or cast aside for "more study". THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THE FEDERAL "ASSAULT WEAPON" BAN REDUCED THE NUMBER OF LEOs KILLED. PERIOD.



FACT: Nonpartisan impact studies demonstrated that the "Assault Weapon" ban "FAILED" to reduce gun-murders:
"We were unable to detect any reduction to date in two types of gun murders that are thought to be closely associated with assault weapons, those with multiple victims in a single incident and those producing multiple bullet wounds per victim. We did find a reduction in killings of police officers since mid-1995. However, the available data are partial and preliminary, and the trends may have been influenced by law enforcement agency policies regarding bullet-proof vests."

5.2.3. Assault Weapons and Crime -
"...assault weapons do not appear to be used disproportionately in violent crime relative to other guns"
"Overall, assault weapons accounted for about 1% of guns associated with homicides, aggravated assaults, and robberies" and "only 2% of guns associated with drug crimes were assault weapons."


5.2.4. Unbanned Handguns Capable of Accepting Large-capacity Magazines -
"The ban on large-capacity magazines does not seem to have discouraged the use of these guns."

6.2.1. Trends in Multiple-Victim Gun Homicides -
"[Studies] failed to produce any evidence that the ban reduced the number of victims per gun homicide incident."

6.3.4. Conclusions -
"[Studies] failed to produce evidence of a post-ban reduction in the average number of gunshot wounds per case or in the proportion of cases involving multiple wounds."

6.4.2. Assault Weapons and Homicides of Police Officers -
"In sum, police officers are rarely murdered with assault weapons."
THE DEFINITIVE CONGRESSIONAL REPORT (link here) ON THE "ASSAULT WEAPON" BAN SHOWED IT "FAILED" TO REDUCE GUN-MURDERS.



FACT: "Assault weapons" are NOT "machine guns".
They are "semi-automatic" meaning one pull of the trigger=one bullet discharged while the next bullet is then chambered ready for the next trigger pull. "Assault weapons" are not full-auto firearms and they do NOT "spray" bullets with a single pull of the trigger.
"ASSAULT WEAPONS" ARE NOT "FULL-AUTO" MACHINE-GUNS.



FACT: The "Assault weapon" Ban had NOTHING to do with silencers.
One of the cosmetic features addressed by the "Assault Weapon" Ban included flash-suppressors which reduce the bright muzzle-glare ONLY in the eyes of the shooter in low-light conditions. Flash-suppressors do NOT "hide" the bright flash from any other observer and do NOT "silence" the very loud report of the gunshot sound.
"FLASH-SUPPRESSORS" ARE NOT "SILENCERS" AND DO NOT MAKE THE SHOOTER "INVISIBLE" AT NIGHT.



FACT: The Columbine-Killers did not violate any provision of "Assault Weapon" ban.
The firearms used in Columbine included two shotguns (like those used for duck hunting), a pistol and a legally-produced TEC-9 "assault weapon". The AWB did not stop those two UNDERAGE killers from illegally acquiring them or illegally bringing them to school or illegally murdering 13 people.
THE "ASSAULT WEAPON" BAN DID NOT TAKE GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS OF CRIMINALS.



FACT: The "Assault Weapon" Ban did NOT actually ban "assault weapons"
The ban only prohibited the NEW PRODUCTION of certain firearms based on cosmetic features. There were hundreds of thousands of "assault weapons" legally owned, bought and sold before the ban was implemented - and there were STILL hundreds of thousands of "assault weapons" legally owned, bought and sold during the past 10 years of the ban's existance.
EXISTING "UZIs, AR-15s AND AK-47s" HAVE STILL BEEN COMPLETELY LEGAL TO OWN, BUY AND SELL FOR THE PAST 10 YEARS.



FACT: The 2nd Amendment is NOT about "duck hunting".
Military-style firearms (like "assault weapons") are specifically protected by the 2nd Amendment according to the U.S. Supreme Court rulings in U.S. v. Miller (1939) and Lewis v. U.S. (1980).
* In the Miller decision the Supreme Court stated, "In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a [a particular gun] has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument".
* In the Lewis decision, the Supreme Court stated, "the Second Amendment guarantees no right to keep and bear a firearm that does not have 'some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia'".
SO ACCORDING TO THE SUPREME COURT, MILITARY-STYLE FIREARMS ARE EXACTLY THE TYPE OF FIREARMS THAT ARE PROTECTED BY THE 2ND AMENDMENT.



FACT: Nobody NEEDS to infringe on the 2nd Amendment in order to reduce crime.

Our RIGHTS do not ebb and flow or come and go with the annual crime reports.

Our RIGHTS do not depend upon what today's gangbangers or psychopaths decide to do to get their next thrill or rage out.

Our RIGHTS are not contingent upon, qualified by nor based on what CRIMINALS use to commit crimes!

Our RIGHTS are derived from natural law, specifically protected by the Constitution and are NOT dependant on the findings in any crime studies!!!

Banning the possession of "assault weapons" because of some crime statistics is like banning the possession of sports cars because of motor vehicle deaths or like banning the possession of the boxcutters because of 9-11.

OUR RIGHTS ARE NOT PREDICATED ON THE MOST RECENT CRIME STATISTICS!





It's Not Just A Gun...

It's My "HOMELAND DEFENSE RIFLE"!!
10 posted on 01/26/2006 10:33:24 PM PST by The_Macallan
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To: kiriath_jearim
Once again, filthy Marxist crats and their allies are using the criminal blacks that they have created and perpetuate with their policies as a stalking horse to remove law abiding citizens rights.

These manipulative bastards need to be destroyed.

11 posted on 01/27/2006 6:51:38 AM PST by metalurgist (Death to the democrats! They're almost the same as communists, they just move a little slower.)
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