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To: Calpernia

I've just looked at a couple of those references. UNBELIEVABLE!!

Logistically, I do not believe that it will work, but that is no reason to roll over on this.

At one point during the evening, I stood up and firstly noted that these things are enacted by folks that do not work livestock themselves (getting them loaded to move or driving them is often times a feat in and of itself let alone scanning and reporting).
Secondly, I noted this is what happens when we look at socialist countries and try to play by their rules (the "Europe does it" argument was raised). We live by a different set of rules.
Third, when looked at from a socialist point of view, government begins to view MY property as THEIR property. And they clearly do not care about increased costs or labor, as they can tax or have me pay for it and as they only want large producers who lobby congress and can foot the cost.

I got a smattering of applause.

This is why when they were talking about the "Sausage king" killing federal inspectors on this site I understood EXACTLY how he felt. Folks do not understand why I think the USDA and FDA should NOT exist. The "for the public good" argument makes me sick as it quickly leads us down the path of totalitarianism.


8 posted on 01/26/2006 9:40:36 AM PST by barj
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To: barj

>>>Logistically, I do not believe that it will work, but that is no reason to roll over on this.

You need to go back and read my Healthy People 2010 link more closely.

The CFRs and terms of service are stating the grant monies transfers ownership to the Grantor.

That is why the NAIS language is using terms such as National Herd.

I somehow don't think the NGOs that made the monies available really care how many guinea fowl are running around in your yard.


9 posted on 01/26/2006 9:57:40 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: barj

Well there is that. That and this scheme would make it alot easier for the IRS to put tax liens on a herd of cows, and also track them as taxable property. When you give your daughter a beef for Christmas, you will have to stick a 1099 in the card.


10 posted on 01/26/2006 10:43:03 AM PST by FreeInWV
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To: barj

>>>>the "Europe does it" argument was raised). We live by a different set of rules.

We don't live by a different set of rules, anymore.

Go here:

http://nationalpropertyowners.org/nais.html

Scroll down to the FAQ on NAIS

Download the Council Decision from the Office of Journal of the European Communities.

We were sold out.


11 posted on 01/26/2006 11:35:00 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: barj

"The 'for the public good' argument makes me sick as it quickly leads us down the path of totalitarianism."

Agreed. I raise laying hens for eggs, and to sell to other people in the area that want to have a few hens around the house. (People in our surrounding towns and even cities can keep up to four hens, now.)

If the day comes and they come to my farm to "tag" my chickens, I will start butchering and find something else to do.


25 posted on 02/04/2006 6:55:29 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: barj
the "Europe does it" argument was raised...

The fact that europe does something is the best reason I can think of not to do it. Europe is the most disfunctional place on earth.

29 posted on 02/04/2006 7:46:25 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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