Posted on 01/25/2006 5:38:47 AM PST by GOPGuide
Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr., the House point man on immigration, yesterday said that a guest-worker program like the one proposed by President Bush is amnesty and that he cannot accept it in a final immigration bill.
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"It seems to me that if you give these people the temporary cards, and the president talked a little bit about that yesterday out in Kansas, whether they are three-year cards or six-year cards or any other term, how do you get them to go back home when they expire?" he said.
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He also said when Congress and the White House agreed in December 2004 to increase the U.S. Border Patrol by 2,000 agents a year, then two months later the president only funded 210 positions, it "was embarrassing both to the administration and those of us who fought for increased assets for border protection in the intelligence bill and then were let down."
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He also said the U.S. Chamber of Commerce "should be ashamed of themselves" for sponsoring meetings with Luis Ernesto Derbez,
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
common sense exposes the Bush plan for what it is..the only question is WHY Bush pushes OPEN BORDERS?
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"WHY Bush pushes OPEN BORDERS?"
I have no idea - I don't remember Clinton pushing on epercent as hard for amnesty between 1992 and 2000 do you??
My problems with Bush:
the border
the pork
If he does address these toot sweet he will be handing the congress over to the Dims. big mistake
Sensenbrenner should shut up and start sponsoring a bill, one acceptable to a majority, to fix the problem instead of demanding that Dubya offer a solution acceptable to Sensenbrenner.
Clinton is the reason for the problem. He started the culture of looking the other way by making sure the border guards did NOT do their jobs.
"Sensenbrenner should shut up and start sponsoring a bill"
He is sponsoring a bill - it calls for building a fence and eliminating the Visa lottery that let's in 50,000 muslims a year.
What's your problem with the bill that passed in December???
GW is determined to get amnesty -- in one form or another -- approved.
If he doesn't get it, I see him pulling a Clinton and signing an exec order granting amnesty just before midnight of his last day in office.
Well that can be legislatively reversed, and you can bet your a** it would be, in today's climate, that's for sure.
Sensenbrenner just passed a bill which had the majority of Republican support and fairly strong support from Democrats. His bill is congruent with the wishes of the vast majority of the American people. He is doing his job.
A Gallop Poll yesterday shows that the area of greatest disapproval for the Bush Administration is its approach to immigration. Bush is the one who is out of touch with the majority. It seems to me that the Bush Administration should finally start enforcing the laws that are already on the books and get behind the Sensenbrenner Bill.
And, if he disagrees with Sensenbrenner about guests he should finally answer the question that Sensenbrenner and everybody else is asking about his Guestworker Plan: How are we going to make the guests leave when their visas expire if we can't seem to make the illegals that are here now leave???? That is a reasonable question and President Bush has spent the last five years dodging it.
Q. If the Senate does have a debate and pass a bill that has guest worker on it, can that conference with your bill?
A. Sure it can conference with my bill. But the American public will not stand for a guest-worker program that amounts to an amnesty. We tried that with Simpson-Mazzoli [the 1986 amnesty], and not only did it fail, but it made the problem worse. And it made the problem worse because of the absence of employer sanctions. The key to controlling illegal immigration in this country is not just enforcement on the border, but internal enforcement of immigration laws, principally the employer-sanctions law.
Q. Does the administration believe that last point?
A. You're going to have to ask them about that. We can spend billions of dollars more on the border, but if we don't turn off the magnet of employment in the United States -- albeit it illegal employment in the United States -- we're not going to be able to solve the problem.
You know, if you look at the percentage increase in the presence of illegal aliens from 2003 to 2004, the two top states are Iowa and Wisconsin, about as far away from the southern border as you can find. Now one of the reasons why Iowa and Wisconsin had this increase is that the economy in the upper Midwest is going along well, but again, they concentrate in certain types of jobs that are low-skilled jobs and are labor-intensive jobs, which means, as I repeat, the people that are doing it the wrong way and getting such a terrific economic advantage in lowering their labor costs, that they either put out of business the people who are doing it the legal way or they drag down the wages of the U.S. citizens and green-card holders who are employed by them.
The main problem I have with it is the failure to get it to the President's desk for a signature.
There is a separate article that has the full transcript of the Times' interview with Sensenbrenner. This is the link:
http://washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20060124-114846-3814r
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Give it some time. It has to go to the Senate first.
Your hyperbole makes it hard to take you seriously but I'll try. If Sensenbrenner can get the bill to Dubya's desk Dubya will sign it. I don't care what the gallup poll says because they lie and Dubya ain't running again. Sensenbrenner is running again and if he wants my vote he needs to fix problems not stand in the way of Dubya trying to fix problems. Right now all I see is a lot of talk and the status quo.
Illegal immigration is not a purely federal problem. AZ is a perfect example. The rat Gov encourages illegals with jobs programs, education money, and lax law enforcement and then blames the out-manned border patrol. Maybe Sensenbrenner can do something about the flood of illegals in WI before he gives the federal government the power to build a Berlin wall and funding for federal storm troopers...like the ones who came in the dead of the night and abducted Ellian Gonzales at gun point.
Just a little hyperbole to make you feel at home.
So you have a problem with building a wall? Why? And why the talk about storm troopers?
But what is the answer to the question?
How do we make the guests go home? There is no hyperpobe in that question whether it comes from me or Sensenbrenner. Bush has repeatedly said that his plan is not amnesty and that the guests will not be on a path to citizenship and that they will eventually have to leave (all though he has waffled on that in some of his older speeches). If they are going to be made to leave, he needs to explain how. He says it is impossible and lacking in compassion to deport the illegals that are here now so why will it suddenly be possible to deport them 6 years from now when they revert from guest status to illegal status as their visas expire?
President Bush has given several speeches on the immigration issue and he has to know that one of the major criticisms of his proposal is that we don't believe he is serious about making the guests leave so why won't he answer the question? In the absence of his answer, I am left to conclude that he is lying about his intentions and he does not really ever expect anything other than that the guests will eventually be allowed to stay permanently. Since he will not explain himself I conclude that he is just delaying towards the day when we can grant a future amnesty.
How about you taking a stab at it? How would you make the guests leave when they reverted to illegal status?
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