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To: Aetius

The FDIC is working with the Chicago Mexican consulate to give home loans to illegal aliens. That program started in 2003, smack dab in Bush's watch.

The Bush administration also twisted arms to make sure that illegal aliens could use Matricula Consular cards.

"Cannot stay" would morph into "oops! I guess we can't deport them" within a couple years at most.

Those same people who say guest workers can't stay are currently also telling us that it would be unrealistic to deport all illegal aliens in the U.S. Not that it would be realistic to conduct mass deportations, but when they say both things they're admitting that they're lying.


2 posted on 01/24/2006 4:24:55 PM PST by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Federal loans or guarantee programs to illegals should be, let me think..........

ILLEGAL!


3 posted on 01/24/2006 4:29:14 PM PST by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
We simply have to impose the exact same rules on illegals as Mexico imposes on US citizens to get a "work permit" down there.

Byzantine doesn't even begin to describe it..

In Mexico for example, a person who is not a citizen must obtain a work permit from the Department of Immigration unless you happen to have Inmigrado status. Inmigrado means you have been in Mexico for five years as a legal immigrant and have all the privileges of the Mexican citizen with the exception of voting rights. The seriousness of working without proper documentation in Mexico is reflected in the penalty should you be caught. The crime comes with a generous sentence of 18 months in a Mexican jail or deportation. Each global locale that requires work permits also has unique rules which apply. In the case of Mexico the work permit, if obtained, is good only for the employer specified on the documentation. Should you change employers, the lengthy process must begin anew.

4 posted on 01/24/2006 4:32:27 PM PST by xcamel (Exposing clandestine operations is treason. 13 knots make a noose.)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

I don't disagree. I mean, if we won't take stronger steps to deport illegal aliens, then what reason is there to expect that we would force legal guest-workers to leave once their term has expired? Unless, of course, it were the case that we had an administration and Congress willing to make sure they leave.

But for Bush, I can't help but take this as a small step forward. Anytime he speaks on the issue w/o resorting to parroting of tired, leftwing platitudes, I call that progress.

But clearly, actions speak louder than words. If we were to implement a guest-worker program, and if we intend for the 'guests' to eventually go home, then it must be made clear from the get go. In the absence of doing away with automatic birth-right citizenship (for those whom it was not intended that is), any program should also be strict about allowing 'guests' to bring their families along, because any children born while the guests are here would be citizens.

And I'm sure some would call this cold, but to me it is simply a call to keep separate matters separate. Maybe we truly need guest-workers, but we don't NEED their families. Again, some would say that is callous, but those who favor a guest-worker program usually advocate for it with rhetoric speaking to how much our nation is in dire need of it. It is presented almost as a business transaction. Well, if that is the case, and if the new Bush line (i.e. no path to citizenship) is genuine, then why undermine that stated belief by allowing entire family units to come, thus guaranteeing that they will carve out a life that leaves them unwilling to go home once their guest-term has expired? It makes no sense.


9 posted on 01/24/2006 4:39:22 PM PST by Aetius
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
"Those same people who say guest workers can't stay are currently also telling us that it would be unrealistic to deport all illegal aliens in the U.S."

Bump that.

27 posted on 01/24/2006 5:17:28 PM PST by moehoward
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Henry Rollins wrote a song that sums this up. An excerpt:

I’ll hide behind a smile
And understanding eyes
And I’ll tell you things that you already know
So you can say
I really identify with you, so much
And all the time that you’re needing me
Is just the time that I’m bleeding you
Don’t you get it yet?
I’ll come to you like an affliction
And I’ll leave you like an addiction
You’ll never forget me
You wanna know why?
Cause I’m a liar
Yeah I’m a liar
I’ll rip your mind out
I’ll burn your soul
I’ll turn you into me
I’ll turn you into me
Cause I’m a liar, a liar
Liar, liar, liar, liar

I don’t know why I feel the need to lie
And cause you so much pain
Maybe it’s something inside
Maybe it’s something I can’t explain
Cause all I do
Is mess you up and lie to you
I’m a liar
Oh, I am a liar

If you’ll give me one more chance
I swear that I will never lie to you again
Because now I see the destructive power of a lie
They’re stronger than truth
I can’t believe I ever hurt you
I swear
I will never to you lie again, please
Just give me one more chance
I will never lie to you again
I swear
That I will never tell a lie
I will never tell a lie
No, no
Ha ha ha ha ha hah haa haa haa haaa
Sucker


49 posted on 01/24/2006 11:31:07 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Get new and improved 'Alien-B-Gone' ...pressure your Senators to pass the House Immigration Bill.)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Wells Fargo is already giving home loans to illegals.
Soon, you too can have a flop house in your neighborhood with 25 illegals packed into it.


59 posted on 01/25/2006 8:13:18 AM PST by Pelham
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

FDIC would scream bloody murder, of course, about packing all those dudes back home.


94 posted on 01/25/2006 10:41:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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