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Suicide watch
Jewish World Review ^ | 1-24-06 | Rabbi Avi Shafran

Posted on 01/24/2006 5:35:49 AM PST by SJackson

In ancient cultures that celebrated paganism and immorality, our ancestors stood up and apart. In the midst of a culture that devalues human life, we should be doing no less

The recent U.S. Supreme Court decision concerning Oregon's physician-assisted suicide law was really about whether a federal drug-control law provided a U.S. Attorney General the authority to punish a state's doctors for acting in accordance with a state statute. But by contending that physician-assisted suicide is a "legitimate medical purpose" for the prescription of a drug, there can be little doubt that the ruling helped bring the idea of abetting suicide a bit closer to mainstream thinking. That's a deeply unfortunate thing.

As it happened, the decision came exactly seven days after a New Jersey nurse who has confessed to killing 29 people decided to stop cooperating with investigators. Charles Cullen maintains that he has killed up to 40 people, many of them old and ailing hospital patients whom he injected with lethal doses of drugs — like those that Oregon doctors have used to end the lives of more than 200 people.

And that was less than two weeks after CNN reported that several medical professionals are under scrutiny in an investigation by Louisiana's attorney general into allegations that hospital workers resorted to unauthorized euthanasia in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. One doctor was reported to have gone from patient to patient with a handful of syringes, telling them that "I'm going to give you something to make you feel better."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: cultureofdeath; doctorsofdeath; euthanasia; moralabsolutes
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To: Bahbah
[ LOL. While that is certainly true (Rabbis are, after all, Jews), I don't hold it against them as it is not possible to be both. ]

Rabbi merely means teacher implying spiritual teacher.. Not a few rabbis have become christians.. My Hebrew Civilzation professor was an orthdox Rabbi.. and he told me (at age 75) he would become a christian (after comeing to one of our meetings) but he was too old to change his entire life and lifestyle.. God was real to him and he was satisified with that.. What he prayed privately he would not say..

21 posted on 01/24/2006 12:26:09 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe

So you've tasted some fresh meat, because of that 75-yo Rabbi, eh? Very mighty it has made you. Of all your posts on this thread so, what as any one of them to do with the dread and dangerous subject? (That subject is: the mortal risk posed by this culture of Suicide for your own life, my own life, the lifes of all those we love, the lifes of all and any.)


22 posted on 01/24/2006 1:33:40 PM PST by bvw
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To: SJackson
But by contending that physician-assisted suicide is a "legitimate medical purpose" for the prescription of a drug, there can be little doubt that the ruling helped bring the idea of abetting suicide a bit closer to mainstream thinking. That's a deeply unfortunate thing.

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Unfortunate and frightening.

23 posted on 01/24/2006 4:31:44 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer

Great cartoon.


24 posted on 01/24/2006 4:32:12 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: bvw
That's what the thread was about? :
25 posted on 01/24/2006 4:49:34 PM PST by SJackson (Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants to see us happy. B. Franklin)
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To: bvw
[ So you've tasted some fresh meat, because of that 75-yo Rabbi, eh? Very mighty it has made you. ]

Nope just shareing a personal anecdote.. of a sweet old guy that I loved.. He loved my school buddies and me too..

What a drama queen.. jeese..

26 posted on 01/24/2006 7:40:52 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: wagglebee; MillerCreek

Yet another one that might be of interest. It's hard to choose sometimes, there are so many.


27 posted on 01/24/2006 7:49:18 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Alouette

I will say this about Kevorkian. From what I remember the folks he went to jail for pulled their own string. These dying folks didn't pawn the deed off on some physician or other party as they are doing in Oregon.


28 posted on 01/24/2006 7:54:30 PM PST by Snoopers-868th (Borrowed tagline: Who do I vote for-the Republicans are socialist and the Democrats are Communist)
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To: odoso; animoveritas; Laissez-faire capitalist; bellevuesbest; Unam Sanctam; EdReform; Antoninus; ...
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29 posted on 01/24/2006 7:58:46 PM PST by MillerCreek
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To: SJackson

What?


30 posted on 01/24/2006 8:44:36 PM PST by bvw
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To: hosepipe

Love love love.


31 posted on 01/24/2006 8:45:44 PM PST by bvw
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To: SJackson

Adding related story:

>>>As it happened, the decision came exactly seven days after a New Jersey nurse who has confessed to killing 29 people decided to stop cooperating with investigators. Charles Cullen maintains that he has killed up to 40 people, many of them old and ailing hospital patients whom he injected with lethal doses of drugs — like those that Oregon doctors have used to end the lives of more than 200 people.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1556668/posts
New Jersey Threatens to Block Killer's Kidney Gift

::Charles Cullen::


32 posted on 01/24/2006 8:48:11 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: hosepipe
... Love ...
33 posted on 01/24/2006 8:49:24 PM PST by bvw
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To: SJackson
The SCOTUS decided this issue quite correctly IMO. The Feds have no business trying to use a US Attorney to prosecute persons with licenses issued by a sovereign State when they are acting in accordance with that States laws.

There was no Federal issue here.

If the Feds want to pass a law which bans Doctors from prescribing sufficient medication to end the life of a terminally ill patient, then let them do it. Then there may be an issue for the Federal Courts to get involved in.

In the meantime, the Feds should not inject themselves (no pun intended) into the private matters of terminally ill patients and their doctors.

If, God forbid, such a disease were ever to strike me I would pray that I could find a physician who would give me sufficient medication so that I could decide when I could no longer stand the pain.

L

34 posted on 01/24/2006 8:55:48 PM PST by Lurker (You don't let a pack of wolves into the house just because they're related to the family dog.)
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To: bvw
[ Love love love. ]

Aw!.. hold mah beer and cigar... (((( HUG ))))...

35 posted on 01/24/2006 9:29:32 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Lurker
"If, God forbid, such a disease were ever to strike me I would pray that I could find a physician who would give me sufficient medication so that I could decide when I could no longer stand the pain."

Why wait. Life sucks, end it now, eh? No sense worrying and worrying about what may happen. Make it so there are no worries.

36 posted on 01/25/2006 7:24:47 AM PST by bvw
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