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9NEWS on ASSIGNMENT: Immigration - Bordering on Reform (video of debate: Tancredo, Owens, etc)
KUSA 9 News website ^ | Jannuary 21st, 2006 | Paola Farer

Posted on 01/22/2006 7:42:06 AM PST by ajolympian2004

***Full length version of the 2 hour debate video links are below ***

For years, the issue of immigration was little more than a murmur. But now, many people are clamoring for change.

Americans are increasingly saying we've come to a fork in the road -- a time to rethink how we define ourselves as a nation.

To advance the immigration debate, 9NEWS gathered together activists and politicians representing a wide range of views on this subject. We have streamed the entire two-hour town meeting held Saturday, Jan. 7 at the University of Denver's Gates Concert Hall.

Our panelists: Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo, Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper, Gov. Bill Owens, Rep. Terrance Carroll, D-Denver, and former Colorado governor and current head of DU's Center for Public Policy and Contemporary Issues, Dick Lamm.

Invitations were also extended to Democrats Rep. Dianna DeGette, Rep. Tom Udall and Sen. Ken Salazar, but they declined. Sen. Salazar is co-sponsoring one of two immigration reform bills going before Congress this year. No other Republican legislators were invited.

There are several new immigration policies that will be debated at the state Capitol this session.

Republicans will offer several bills to crack down on illegal immigration, including a plan to prohibit state and local governments from employing illegal immigrants and train police to identify and detain them if they are stopped for other infractions.

Democrats said it would be dangerous to make local authorities responsible for enforcing federal immigration laws because of the complexity, with dozens of different immigrant visas

Another proposal would have public schools ask students when they register if they are legal U.S. citizens.

Gov. Bill Owens addressed the impasse on how to end illegal immigration in his State of the State speech. He said he supported tougher border controls and holding employers who hire illegal immigrants accountable. And he advocates separating illegal immigrants into two groups - those who want to stay, and those who simply want to work.

But Owens said, "the real heavy lifting must be done at our nation's Capitol."

Republican Congressman Tom Tancredo, of Littleton, has pushed hard to keep immigration on the national agenda and has even floated the possibility of a presidential bid to put the issue under the spotlight.

Video links below... (2 hour full version in four parts, windows media player)


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Colorado; US: New Mexico; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; california; colorado; dicklamb; governorowens; gwot; hackett; hickenlooper; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; johnhickenlooper; lamb; newmexico; owens; tancredo; terrorism; terrorists; texas; tomtancredo; wot
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Immigration: Bordering on Reform -- Part I
http://wm.gannett.speedera.net/wm.gannett/kusa/backup/1137107852331-01-14-06-immigration1.wmv

Immigration: Bordering on Reform -- Part II
http://wm.gannett.speedera.net/wm.gannett/kusa/backup/1137114752421-01-14-06-immigration2.wmv

Immigration: Bordering on Reform -- Part III
http://wm.gannett.speedera.net/wm.gannett/kusa/backup/1137124172581-01-14-06-immigration3.wmv

Immigration: Bordering on Reform -- Part IV
http://wm.gannett.speedera.net/wm.gannett/kusa/backup/1137124652327-01-14-06-immigration4.wmv

1 posted on 01/22/2006 7:42:11 AM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: ajolympian2004
tancredo has a slimy pro-abortion, pro-homosexual marriage trial lawyer democrat on his side, paul hackett.

Candidate’s remark rattles Democrats Senate contender Hackett stands by call in Toledo to deport illegal immigrants

2 posted on 01/22/2006 7:45:55 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: Dane

Many key points were made in this debate. One of many things I liked was the call for English to become the official language of Colorado and the USA by Tom Tancredo, Governor Bill Owens (R) and former Governor Dick Lamb (D).


3 posted on 01/22/2006 7:52:36 AM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: ajolympian2004
Many key points were made in this debate. One of many things I liked was the call for English to become the official language of Colorado and the USA by Tom Tancredo, Governor Bill Owens (R) and former Governor Dick Lamb (D)

I agree, the official language of state and federal govt. should be English.

I'll admit that I am a bit kneejerkish about tancredo, especially with his association with political grifter bay buchanan, and now a slimy pro-abortion, pro-homosexual trial lawyer democrat, paul hackett, parrotting tancredo talking points.

4 posted on 01/22/2006 7:59:08 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: ajolympian2004
One of many things I liked was the call for English to become the official language of Colorado and the USA by Tom Tancredo, Governor Bill Owens (R) and former Governor Dick Lamb (D).
I thought CO was already had a provision for English, but maybe it isn't English specific .....

click

5 posted on 01/22/2006 8:07:26 AM PST by deport
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To: Dane

Whoever is on the side of Tancredoesque immigration reform is fine with me. This issue overrides all else right now except the war against islamic terrorists.


6 posted on 01/22/2006 8:07:59 AM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: deport

I don't think English is because of how it was discussed in the debate.


7 posted on 01/22/2006 8:08:48 AM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: deport
Link to map in above post
8 posted on 01/22/2006 8:10:11 AM PST by deport
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To: Dane
Do you hold Tancredo responsible for leftists who might agree with him about immigration?
9 posted on 01/22/2006 8:11:00 AM PST by Nephi (Illegal immigration is the flip side of the globalist free trade coin. Bush is a globalist.)
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The debate also includes Denver Mayor John Hickenlooper. Hickenlooper is the person who owns a restaurant here locally where the illegal alien (Gomez-Garcia) who shot Denver police officer Donnie Young was employed.


10 posted on 01/22/2006 8:11:59 AM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: Nephi

Nope. How can Tom Tancredo control that?


11 posted on 01/22/2006 8:12:39 AM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: ajolympian2004

You get it, but does Dane?


12 posted on 01/22/2006 8:15:17 AM PST by Nephi (Illegal immigration is the flip side of the globalist free trade coin. Bush is a globalist.)
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To: ajolympian2004

Hi ajolympian2004!

I am on dial up, so watching the whole 2 hour debate on the internet will take several million years. :(

I was wondering if you could give a summary of Owens plans to deal with illegal immigration during this video? I know that Owens came out in favor of a 2,000 mile fence.

I also know Owens supported a plan popular with House Conservatives to give a work permit to an illegal only if he moves back home first. Did Owens go into detail about this program during the debate?

Also where did Owens and Tancredo agree and disagree???

Thank you very much. :)


13 posted on 01/22/2006 8:17:04 AM PST by GOPGuide
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I hope 'Dane' does.

I do agree with him 100% when on the issues of the murder of unborn babies and men having sex with other men.

14 posted on 01/22/2006 8:17:30 AM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: Nephi
Do you hold Tancredo responsible for leftists who might agree with him about immigration?

Yes, tancredo is directly linked with bay and pat buchanan, through their PAC.

The buchanans really don't care about issues, only about money coming into their PAC.

I have no doubt the buchanans are welcoming pro-tax hike, pro-abortion, pro-homosexual marriage slimy trial lawyer democrat, paul hackett, parroting the buchanan immigration talking points.

15 posted on 01/22/2006 8:18:02 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: GOPGuide

From memory Owens, Lamb and Tancredo agreed on just about everything. I can't recap it now as I must take a nap before the upcoming Broncos game. I was up all night long.


16 posted on 01/22/2006 8:18:54 AM PST by ajolympian2004
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To: ajolympian2004
I don't think English is because of how it was discussed in the debate.
Well someone needs to explain the following from the State constitution:

ARTICLE II
Bill of Rights
In order to assert our rights, acknowledge our duties, and proclaim the principles upon which our government is founded, we declare: .............
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(3) The general assembly may provide by law for procedures necessary to implement this section. This section shall take effect upon completion of the canvass of votes taken thereon.

[Enacted by the People November 4, 1980 ­­ Effective upon proclamation of the Governor, December 19, 1980. (For the text of the initiated measure and the votes cast thereon, see L. 81, p. 2055.)]

Section 30a. Official language. The English language is the official language of the State of Colorado.

This section is self executing; however, the General Assembly may enact laws to implement this section.


17 posted on 01/22/2006 8:27:22 AM PST by deport
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To: ajolympian2004

Thank you. :)


18 posted on 01/22/2006 8:57:05 AM PST by GOPGuide
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To: Columbine; loreldan

Hi!

I am on dial up, so watching the whole 2 hour debate on the internet will take several million years. :(

I was wondering if you could give a summary of Owens plans to deal with illegal immigration during this video? I know that Owens came out in favor of a 2,000 mile fence.

I also know Owens supported a plan popular with House Conservatives to give a work permit to an illegal only if he moves back home first. Did Owens go into detail about this program during the debate?

Also where did Owens and Tancredo agree and disagree???

Thank you very much. :)


19 posted on 01/22/2006 8:57:57 AM PST by GOPGuide
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Yes, tancredo is directly linked with bay and pat buchanan, through their PAC.

Yes, he is. And George Bush is directly linked with Jack Abramoff. Abramoff pledged over $100,000 as a Bush "pioneer". Then worked on the Bush transition team in the Interior department, where he just happened to get the goods for Indian gaming. Cesar Conda, Cheney's former domestic advisor is now working with George Soros. Another Abramoff aid is now working for Cheney. Google it.

Are you sure you want to go there, Dane?

20 posted on 01/22/2006 9:13:34 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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