[Canadian] Tories lead by 10, but lots of regional fights

CTV.ca ^ | 1/21/06 | CTV.ca News Staff

[Nathan Zachary]

Tha would be an interesting comparison. I think you are right about the young voter thing too.

CTV had also pulled a poll today. Strange. The media has really turned around on Harper, It's so blatantly obvious, but debates on local TV go well for the conservatives regardless.
I think he will pull out a majority , he has the momentum, while the Liberals are just screwing up and doing stupid things, like one candidate telling a Canadian WW2 veteran that if he didn't like a Liberal Canada, he could move to the USA. That was somewhere in Ontario. Of course, the media won't say a damn thing. Disgusting.

[Nathan Zachary]

Another thing is stewing on the back burner in western Canada. The Western Separtist Party will be an official Party as of Feb 6/06. If Caadians don't give Harper a majority, his government probably won't last very long. The Western Separtists will be ready to go next time around, and will probably do quite well too.
This is prropably the last chance Eastern Canada has to do the right thing, otherwise it's mostly likely the beginning of the end for Canada as it is today. It actually makes good sense for Western Canada to separate.

[Reaganez]

Thanks

[iPod Shuffle]

With those numbers, couldn't the Liberals, NDP and BLoc combine to form a coalition govt?

[backhoe]

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[goldstategop]

It depends on how well the Conservatives do in Quebec and the 905 area. If all the cards fall the right way Monday, a majority is not out of the question. The Liberals are running scared and for all of Martin's boasts of a comeback, the fact of the matter is in 2004, on the last weekend of the campaign before the election, the Liberals were leading by three points. In 2006, on the last weekend of the campaign before the election, they are behind by 10 points. Its too big a lead to close within a day. And I don't need a poll to tell me who's going to win; just look at where the major party leaders are winding up their campaigns.

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[goldstategop]

More like a Blue Wave. The Liberals have run on fear like the Democrats did here in the States in 2002 and 2004 and they're gonna get creamed. They're not offering any proposals to make life better for the average Canadian. Martin and his band of thugs are living in deep denial.

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[goldstategop]

The Bloc will never agree to ally itself with the Liberals. And there are hard feelings between the Grits and the Dippers, over the fact the Liberals have been poaching the Hard Left to prop up their shrinking vote share. The Liberals are not going to lead the Government again and its not even certain they will be the Official Opposition in the next Parliament.

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[NZerFromHK]

I think the Liberal Party as a "centrist" party concept is over (they are practically centre-left by every measurable standards, but they still brand the party itself as centrist). We will probably see a consolidation of Canada's political scene into one major centre-right party and one major centre-left party. The Grits will either go the way of New Zealand's United Future under Peter Dunne - an insignificant socially conservative but principleless party that enjoys about 4% support, or it will absorb most of the New Democrats in the post-Martin restructuring and morph into something like the Labour Party of New Zealand in ideology - rebranding itself as a clearly social democratic or centre-left political party.

This leaves the Quebecois Bloc as the separatist party, and probably the emergence of a purely leftist party that windowdresses itself with "environmental concerns" - a bit like the Green Party of the United States or New Zealand.

[goldstategop]

It all depends on what Canada's political structure looks like in the next 10 years. It will be a lot different from the centralized federation of MacDonald's day. Parliament will be a lot weaker and the provinces will be even stronger. The main action won't be in a House Of Commons but in an elected Senate. The West is going to be as important a player nationally as Quebec was in the last century. Monday is a whole new era in Canada. It may be overkill to describe it as the beginning of the end of the Liberals but it looks that way. A party confined to a few urban strongholds is not a party that can credibly speak for the entire country.

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[conservative in nyc]

Well, let me start with the national numbers, since they are the easiest to find:

	Actual 2004	Last SES 2004	Last SES	Last Ipsos 2004	Last Ipsos	Last Ekos 2004	Last Ekos	Last Strategic	Last Leger	Last Decima
Conservative	29.6%	30%	36.2%	31%	38%	31.8%	37.1%	37%	38%	37%
Liberal	36.7%	34%	29.4%	32%	26%	32.6%	26.9%	27%	29%	27%
NDP	15.7%	20%	17.3%	17%	19%	19.0%	19.5%	18%	17%	18%
Bloc Quebecois	12.4%	12%	11.0%	12%	11%	11.2%	11.5%	11%	11%	11%
Green	4.3%	4%	6.1%	6%	5%	-	4.6%	6%	-	-

[conservative in nyc]

Canada, Ontario and Quebec:

Canada	Actual 2004	Final SES 2004	Last SES	Final Ipsos 2004	Last Ipsos	Final Ekos 2004	Last Ekos	Last Strategic	Last Leger	Last Decima
Conservative	29.6%	30%	36.2%	31%	38%	31.8%	37.1%	37%	38%	37%
Liberal	36.7%	34%	29.4%	32%	26%	32.6%	26.9%	27%	29%	27%
NDP	15.7%	20%	17.3%	17%	19%	19.0%	19.5%	18%	17%	18%
Bloc Quebecois	12.4%	12%	11.0%	12%	11%	11.2%	11.5%	11%	11%	11%
Green	4.3%	4%	6.1%	6%	5%	4.9%	4.6%	6%	-	-

Ontario	Actual 2004	Final SES 2004	Last SES	Final Ipsos 2004	Last Ipsos	Final Ekos 2004	Last Ekos	Last Strategic	Last Leger	Last Decima
Conservative	31.5%	32%	35%	34%	38%	35%	35.8%	37%	39%	36%
Liberal	44.7%	39%	39%	38%	34%	38%	33.4%	37%	37%	39%
NDP	18.1%	25%	17%	20%	21%	21%	24.3%	21%	19%	18%
Bloc Quebecois	0.0%	1%	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
Green	4.4%	4%	8%	6%	5%	5%	6.3%	6%	-	-

Quebec	Actual 2004	Finalt SES 2004	Last SES	Final Ipsos 2004	Last Ipsos	Final Ekos 2004	Last Ekos	Last Strategic	Last Leger	Last Decima
Conservative	8.8%	11%	27%	9%	27%	11%	24.5%	24%	26%	25%
Liberal	33.9%	28%	18%	33%	14%	28%	12.7%	15%	20%	14%
NDP	4.6%	7%	9%	5%	9%	7%	7.9%	8%	8%	11%
Bloc Quebecois	48.9%	51%	44%	48%	46%	51%	50.2%	47%	42%	45%
Green	3.2%	3%	3%	5%	3%	3%	3.4%	7%	-	-