[Gordongekko909]

Okay, environmentalist wackos opposing urban sprawl at least makes sense. But opposing the spread of plants? What is this?

[glorgau]

Nimby, Nimby, change is evil!

[NautiNurse]

Click to be added or removed on this low volume list. (Over 100 members).

Wine news ping.

Oenology news ping.

[Dog Gone]

They say there isn't enough water to support more vineyards, which pollute the river and soil and threaten salmon and other wildlife with runoff.

If it hadn't just flooded there this month, that claim might be more credible.

[TADSLOS]

Enviro-whackos vs. California liberal wine snobs. Does it get any better? I think not.

[Michael.SF.]

plant the once-obscure varietal

Once obscure? When, before Louis the XIV?

[GVnana]

They ran out the timber industry and now they're after the vineyards. To the same ends. No jobs. No local industry except real estate sales where the locals can live off the money made from other people with real jobs in the cities.

[B Knotts]

They say there isn't enough water to support more vineyards

LOL

[Uncle Miltie]

"They say there isn't enough water to support more vineyards, which pollute the river and soil and threaten salmon and other wildlife with runoff."

I'm a fish-hugger, but properly maintained vineyards shouldn't use any chemicals other than perhaps copper sulfate. There should be little to no change in runoff with reasonable soil management techniques. A grape plant or a pine tree plant shouldn't operate too differently. Just make sure you protect a wide riparian strip.

[larryjohnson]

sent to N CA son.

[WHATNEXT?]

Hey, I say keep the trees (our Pinot Noir wines in Oregon are superb.)

[Cacique]

Vino ping

[IslandJeff]

ping

[djreece]

Well, personally I would hate to see more of Sonoma County be eaten up by vineyards. But being a conservative, I don't feel the need to throw a temper tantrum to impose my views on others' private property. I hope to see the day though when such dilemmas are solved in a truly scientific and free-market-based manner rather than through lawsuits and regulation.

[hinckley buzzard]

Vineyard developers are snapping up thousands of acres of redwoods and firs in Sonoma County, with plans to clear the trees and plant the once-obscure varietal made famous by the wine-fueled road trip film "Sideways."

Such a degrading and meaningless movie. So many insipid winoes. Guess they go together at that. Who needs redwoods when you can guzzle half-assed wine like they do in the movies?

[machman]

Pinot, yes, because we're not drinking any FU#%@%^ Merlot!

[Bender2]

Re: "We feel it's much more important for future generations to have forests on these hills than wine grapes."

I agree... Cut down them tree and build a proper brewery!

[RockinRight]

So redwood trees have a right to be there, but not grapevines?

Sounds like botanical segregation to me.

Racists!