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Molly Ivins: I Won't Back Hillary
NewsMax ^ | 20 January 2006 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 01/20/2006 3:23:45 PM PST by rdb3

Reprinted from NewsMax.com

Friday, Jan. 20, 2006 5:19 p.m. EST

Molly Ivins: I Won't Back Hillary

"I'd like to make it clear to the people who run the Democratic Party that I will not support Hillary Clinton for president.”

With that pronouncement, liberal syndicated columnist Molly Ivins begins a blistering column that castigates Hillary and the Democratic Party for failing to take a strong stand on a variety of issues important to liberals like her.

Et tu, Brute?

"Enough triangulation, calculation and equivocation. Enough clever straddling, enough not offending anyone,” Ivins writes in her column on CNN.com.

"Sen. Clinton is apparently incapable of taking a clear stand on the war in Iraq, and that alone is enough to disqualify her. Her failure to speak out on Terri Schiavo, not to mention that gross pandering on flag-burning, are just contemptible little dodges ...

"There are times when regular politics will not do, and this is one of those times. There are times a country is so tired of bull that only the truth can provide relief.

"If no one in conventional-wisdom politics has the courage to speak up and say what needs to be said, then you go out and find some obscure junior senator from Minnesota with the guts to do it. In 1968, Gene McCarthy was the little boy who said out loud, ‘Look, the emperor isn't wearing any clothes.’”

Ivins says the majority of Americans believe the war in Iraq is a mistake and the U.S. should get out, and a majority are also in favor of raising the minimum wage, repealing President Bush’s tax cuts, imposing a windfall profits tax on big oil companies and reducing the deficit not by cutting domestic spending, but by reducing Pentagon spending or raising taxes.

"That is the center, you fools,” Ivins tells Hillary and the Democrats. "WHO ARE YOU AFRAID OF?”

For "pragmatic folk” like Hillary, Joe Biden and Joe Lieberman, Ivins urges: "Oh come on, people - get a grip on the concept of leadership ...

"Do not sit there cowering and pretending the only way to win is as Republican-lite. If the Washington-based party can't get up and fight, we'll find someone who can.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: demscrisiscontinues; demsuicidewatch; hillary2008; hitlary; ivins; jezebel; stoppedclock; twiceperday
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
They all want to give the him a Monica. You knew the girls in high school that always fell for the line of BS from the guy you wouldn't let you sister within a mile of.

That's Bill.

81 posted on 01/20/2006 6:28:51 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: rdb3
Don't see anything saying she would take a stance of opposition if Hillary does get an unconstitutional nomination for another term as co-president.
82 posted on 01/20/2006 6:39:50 PM PST by weegee
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To: billorites


83 posted on 01/20/2006 6:47:54 PM PST by weegee
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To: weegee
Here I was enjoying an inter-rat dust up......

Did you really have to do that?

:-)

84 posted on 01/20/2006 6:50:32 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: elcid1970

just fed up with all the libs.


85 posted on 01/20/2006 7:25:44 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than anyone will ever know. He's A++)
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To: rdb3
Phone: {{ringgg, ringgg, ringgg}}}

Hellary: Hey babe, it's Hil. Hey listen, hun, our internal polling data still indicates that most voters still think I'm an avowed Marxist and general anti-capitalist slug. Can you pen a column calling me on the carpet as being some kind of {{giggle}} moderate and a Benedict Arnold to the Leftist Cause. Should be good for lots of votes unsuspecting Middle Americans. You know, Mol, the ones we privately mutter about under our breaths.

Molly: Sure sweetums, no problem. You know I'd do anything for you. Luv' ya!

Hellary: Thanks. {{click}}

Molly (after she hangs up the phone): What a great gal!

Hellary (after she hangs up the phone): What a toadie! This is just too easy.

86 posted on 01/20/2006 7:50:32 PM PST by Libertarian444
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To: Inspectorette
He Who Has No Eyebrows - Gep Dickhardt (or something like that ;-)

Congessman Howdy Doody...

the infowarrior

87 posted on 01/21/2006 12:16:29 AM PST by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Dog Gone

It is the nature of poilitical parties that the outer wings of each have the most dedicated and active members. Another permutation of Tip O'Neil's "all politics is local" credo. The road to SD, state, and national conventions begins at local precinct primary caucuses, which most voters never attend. Been a precinct chair and election judge since '92, never had anyone other than wife and I attend.

By the time we get to state, the distillate extremism is sometimes hard to contain. Fortunately, the Dems suffer worse from this tendency toward unelectable positions than we do.

Howard Dean I call the gift that keeps giving. I really think the best thing the Republican Party can do to advance whoever runs Republican in 2008 is to start now, create a Russ Feingold campaign PAC, send our people to the early primary states, walk precincts, man phone banks, drive get out the vote vans, get this fool the Dem nomination. Punch home the message that us good progressive Democrats are tired of perpetuating the family dynastic royalty bouncing back and forth between Familia Bush and Cosa Nostra Clinton. Feingold may make the Molly Ivins of the party stand up and cheer, but he CANNOT win the uncommitted center.

Sorry folks, too many people confuse winning idealogical points with winning elections. A solid 60% of voters consider themselves independent, ticket splitting, vote for the man not the party voters, and no one can win without them. Lose the election and we can go off in a corner and congratulate one another for adhering to principle. Might as well do that, the other party will be busy running the country and appointing SCOTUS judges.

Molly Ivins and the Deaniacs have forgotten THE central fact of 2008. It will be the first Presidential without an incumbent Pres or VP (I am assuming Cheney will not, cannot, age and health) since LBJ bailed out in '68. At this point I have not a clue which Rep will emerge, anyone saying different today is blowing plumes of smoke. Our best strategy is to sit back thoughtfully and let the Dem form into a circular firing squad. Right now Hillary's most effective opposition is from within her party.

You cannot win running agin'. If either side comes up November running on "they are rascals", without also saying "we are X and Y", that Party loses.


88 posted on 01/21/2006 12:41:55 AM PST by barkeep
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To: rdb3

LMAO!!! That cow Molly Ivins is certainly all atwitter these days, ain't she? HAR!!!


89 posted on 01/21/2006 12:49:17 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Ditto

"Hillary just does not have Bill's touch of telling every audience exactly what they want to hear without pissing the last or next audience off".

Duh, 'Scuse me, what do you think the "Plantation" crack on MLK day was about? She has already run as far right as she can, needs to play to her left. By Nov. the only people who recall "Plantation" and are offend by it weren't going to vote for her anyway.


90 posted on 01/21/2006 12:51:07 AM PST by barkeep
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To: rdb3
That cant have been written by Molly Irvin's. I swear I saw her stuffed and on display at the Cowgirl hall of fame in Fort Worth the other day. Or was that a horse? Same thing.
91 posted on 01/21/2006 1:06:52 AM PST by BigCinBigD (Merry Christmas!)
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To: operation clinton cleanup
Well, she used to be funny when writing about the Texas Legislature. On the smaller state scale she was pretty witty a few decades ago. Sort of like Woody Allen - in the ' I used to think they were funny, but it might have been the drugs' category:-)
92 posted on 01/21/2006 1:14:40 AM PST by RedStateRocker
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To: operation clinton cleanup
In the face of an enemy as vicious as has ever been seen on earth, we have Molly Ivans who would lay down and take it like the French girls did to Hitler, and while she's at it sabotage public support for thoes standing on the line. Her hate of GWB-Lust for power? History will figure it out. Much is at stake now-"our way of life". But the old adage is here. Lead,Follow or get the hell out of the Way
93 posted on 01/21/2006 5:49:56 AM PST by reefdiver (Demo rats = surrender monkees)
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To: FormerLib
I think this is one of those stopped clock being right twice per day moments. Of course, I'm being downright generous there.

And it was her ugly mug that broke the clock!

94 posted on 01/21/2006 5:59:03 AM PST by Smittie
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To: Normal4me

Speaking of "eating their own", remember this little spat
between her and another liberal columnist?

Molly wrone an article and was charged with plagiarizing King. Molly wrote an apology letter, which King reprinted here: http://www.taemag.com/issues/articleid.16475/article_detail.asp
URL containing the charge of plagiarism here: http://www.taemag.com/issues/articleID.16894/article_detail.asp

Molly has to backtrack on a lot of her statements and "facts" anyway, so I'm sure she'll be singing praise for Hillary in no time.


95 posted on 01/21/2006 7:40:22 AM PST by Verbosus
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To: DCPatriot
You know, if Hubert Humphrey were alive and in politics today, I'll bet he'd be a Republican. He was very pro-gun pro 2nd Amendment. I don't think he'd fall into line with todays RAT rhetoric. Just my opinion. The rest of that bunch are truly hard core globalists & communists. That is to say...traitors.
96 posted on 01/21/2006 7:39:50 PM PST by ExSoldier
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To: rdb3
bump

I'd like to make it clear to the people who run the Democratic Party that I will not support Hillary Clinton for president.

Enough. Enough triangulation, calculation and equivocation. Enough clever straddling, enough not offending anyone This is not a Dick Morris election. Sen. Clinton is apparently incapable of taking a clear stand on the war in Iraq, and that alone is enough to disqualify her. Her failure to speak out on Terri Schiavo, not to mention that gross pandering on flag-burning, are just contemptible little dodges.

Molly Ivins: Not. backing. Hillary.
CNN.com ^ | January 20, 2006 | Molly Ivens


hillary dumps Geena for Maggie,1 and when that doesn't fly,2 she dumps Maggie for bill. Without missing a beat.

It's the old Dick Morris Hail Mary pass, (when in trouble, triangulate3), the once trusty play that for eight years kept two clumsy kleptocrats4 in the Oval Office and out of the slammer (even as it placed America and Americans in ever-increasing peril.)5

That missus clinton has managed, thereby, to stake out Iraqi territory occupied apparently by no one6 seems to have escaped her notice. Nonetheless, this constituency of zero is the least of her troubles.

COMPLETE ARTICLE

IMPERIOUS HILLARY
(THE REPORTS OF HER DEATH ARE GREATLY UNDERSTATED)
by Mia T, 12.05.05

Having failed to snare the Nobel Peace Prize by ignoring terrorism, clinton has apparently decided to intensify his America-bashing on foreign soil, the method employed by Jimmy Carter to great (if somewhat belated) effect: Carter received his 1978 Peace Prize finally in 2002.

Meanwhile, back in the Senate, the missus, the other half of the clinton construct, maintains her hawkish pose (though not without bird problems of another sort).

Yet another example of the clinton conflation ploy, (see SCHEMA PINOCCHIO: how the clintons are handling the hillary dud factor), this variant allows "clinton, the construct" to hold two mutually exclusive positions simultaneously, thereby enabling the missus to avoid in '08 the trap that repeatedly ensnared the ever 'nuanced' Kerry in '04.

Do you now understand how stupid the clintons think you are?

A CALL TO IMPEACH CLINTON IN ABSENTIA
Mia T, 11.17.05



December 7, 1941+64

AN OPEN LETTER TO TIM ROBBINS, DAVID GEFFEN, CHRIS MATTHEWS, MAUREEN DOWD + JEANINE PIRRO

RE: a not-so-modest proposal concerning hillary clinton



Dear Concerned Americans,

Hillary Clinton's revisionist tome notwithstanding, 'living history' begets a certain symmetry. It is in that light that I make this not-so-modest proposal on this day, exactly 64 years after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

The context of our concern today--regardless of political affiliation--is Iraq and The War on Terror, but the larger fear is that our democracy may not survive.

We have the requisite machines, power and know-how to defeat the enemy in Iraq and elsewhere, but do we have the will?

In particular, do we have the will to identify and defeat the enemy in our midst?

Answerable to no one, heir apparent in her own mind, self-serving in the extreme, Hillary Clinton incarnates this insidious new threat to our survival.

What we decide to do about Missus Clinton will tell us much about what awaits us in these perilous new times.

COMPLETE LETTER

December 7, 1941+64
Mia T
AN OPEN LETTER TO TIM ROBBINS, DAVID GEFFEN, CHRIS MATTHEWS, MAUREEN DOWD + JEANINE PIRRO
RE: a not-so-modest proposal concerning hillary clinton


COPYRIGHT MIA T 2006

97 posted on 01/21/2006 10:10:01 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: ExSoldier

I mentioned Hubert Humphrey because he was unsuccessful in multiple attempts to be their candidate.


98 posted on 01/22/2006 1:48:34 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: All
Let's be generous, and just mention that Molly's record as a prognosticator is a little, ahem! "tarnished":

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99 posted on 01/22/2006 2:33:24 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: rdb3
Well..well, the round mound of leftist Texas sound is heard from again. How wonderful it is to see that there is trouble in demonRATic paradise for Saint Hillary, she who would be Queen! As she carefully steers her course down what she perceives to be to the right of patriotic midstream she has miscalculated. Oh! What to do? While she was fixated on reeling in the traditional mainstream of her party, independents and weak-sister Republicans she alienated the left-wing. Fear not boys and girls for Hillary, if nothing else, is the worst kind of calculating politician. Always with an eye on the ultimate prize she will do something soon to endear herself to the lefties again.

You will notice, if you pay very close attention to everything she does, that she has been taking off quite pointedly at the Bush administration in her speeches. I see a specific purpose there as somebody has made her aware of a very real problem. The possibility of a Condeleeza Rice on one of the two slots for the Republican ticket for 2008. Rice, in very real terms, is the one who can hurt her. She can make a dent in the womens' vote, the black vote and the assorted minorities vote. If she is nothing else Hillary is a politician who has learned at the knee (pardon the pun) of her sometimes paramour Bill. She is very adept at whoring for the vote. She has no morality or ethics about it and is totally pragmatic, which makes her a very dangerous politician.

Do NOT underestimate her for this strategy I alluded to is to set up Rice, or any other Bush administration potential nominee, to be on the defensive from the get-go! I like to relate presidential politics to playing chess and see a potential disaster on the horizon for their party. Make no mistake about it, we will be witnessing a mortal combat for the very soul of that party; especially, if the mid-term elections do NOT improve their seat count in congress. The lefties, in Hillary, see their real chance to gain control by doing just precisely what the round mound from Texas has done...., demonizing her. Should that trend be followed by others do not be surprised if Howie 'The Rage' Dean pops up as the darling of the lefties and is courted and steps down as DNC chair to run. His strong appeal to back-room powers that be is his appeal to the young. Even though they failed to show at the polls last time, that appeal will not be ignored. Having once tasted of the red meat of presidential potential that appetite is not easily satisfied in observing others.

In closing FReepers I suggest you sit back and enjoy the bloodsport which has begun. Not a bad time to hit the leftie sites and drop little suggestions here and there just to stoke the fires a bit, huh!

100 posted on 01/22/2006 5:39:27 AM PST by doctorhugo (Concerned Citizen and Proud Navy Vet...Damn the torpedoes, ALL AHEAD FLANK)
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