Posted on 01/20/2006 9:54:55 AM PST by dead
Can you imagine! Having to let a person like that sanctimoniously rip apart your husband's character.
Wow.
No one said that, genius.
Well, your word is good enough for me. This is hugh!!11 The MSM should pick up on this right away. Why hasn't this been reported yet!?!?1
Poucha Pond
NO!
If it's true, it's an amazing story.
If it's not, the story on the face of it is amazing enough.
He's still "The Swimmer"....."Splash" is the name of his Oldsmobile.
and unbelievably, his dog!!
Mary Jo was 29 when she died in 1969, 35 1/2 years ago. Somehwere in the cobwebs of my memory, I thought both of her parents died some time ago. Unfortunately, I don't have the time now to do the necessary research. So I did some quick math to roughly calculate if it is likely Gwen is still alive.
If one arbitrarily assumes that Gwen was about 20 when she had Mary Jo, she would have been about 49 when her daughter died. That would make her about 84 now, so at least theoretically she could still be alive. If you or other FReepers have the time to dig into whether or not she died some time ago (as I believe in the mists of my memory), we would at least be able to know if the story is even possible.
I believe that Kennedy killed Mary Jo while driving an Oldsmobile, not a Buick. While they are both GMC cars, you would think that the mother of Mary Jo would have that factoid correct, considering the magnitude of the incident.
look at this tidbit.....
If it ever was there, is WaPo above editing it?
I got yer back! :) After reading down this far, and checking the other links... just toooo much rings true. And my condolences, even still.. for the loss never ceases to hurt.
While out of the room, Alito's wife received a call of encouragement form Gwen Kopechne. Mrs. Kopechne told Bomgardner (Mrs. Alito) that while she understood the emotions that caused her to leave the room, she should be thankful her family member being abused by Sen. Edward Kennedy was still in the room, and not in the back of a Buick at the bottom of a pond.
Would I go so far at this time to call it an outright fraud? No, but only because I don't have enough information to do so. The dishonest links to the WaPo, in and of themselves, do not indicate whether or not Gwen Kopechne called Mrs. Alito. However, the dishonest links sure do raise a huge red flag.
Thanks, icwhatudo, for calling this to our attention.
Father: Joseph Kopechne (insurance salesman, d. 24-Dec-2003)
Mother: Gwen L. Kopechne (homemaker)
A liberal trap?
For me?
How sweet!
And I didn't get them anything!
I only know what my friend's mother says Judge Alito's mother told her.
In twenty years, my friend has never lied to me about even the smallest thing. And his mother is an upstanding solid person without the slightest hint of nut about her.
I don't know if the story is true, but I can't identify anybody who would lie in that group, assuming the judge's mom is telling the truth.
I really just posted it to see if somebody could confirm it or prove it wrong. I don't expect anybody to prove it wrong though, because I trust my source.
While that may be good enough to pass Dan Rather's credibility test, I'm afraid I'd have to see considerably more evidence before I'd believe this.
Makes a good story, though. And regardless of this tale's veracity, Ted Kennedy's behavior at the Alito hearings was boorish beyond redemption.
Thanks. That answers one important question about the story.
Kopechne, Joseph AI haven't seen any reference to Gwen Kopechne's demise.Joseph A. Kopechne, 90, of Swiftwater, Pa. died Wednesday, Dec 24, 2003 in Stroud Manor Nursing Home, East Stroudsburg, PA.
He was born on April 25, 1913, in Forty Fort, son of Frank and Mary Leitinger Kopetchny.
He served in the Civilian Conservation Corps in 1935 and 1936. During World War II, he worked at the shipyards in New Jersey.
He worked for Washington National Life Insurance Company most of his life and lived in New Jersey during that period. He and his wife moved back to Pennsylvania in 1973 and lived in Laurel Springs in Swiftwater for 28 years until they moved to East Stroudsburg.
He was a life long member of the Knights of Columbus and attended Our Lady of Victory Roman Catholic Church, Tannersville. He was an avid tennis player for most of his life and enjoyed sports events of all kinds.
He was preceded in death by his only child, Mary Jo Kopechne, in 1969. Surviving are his wife of over 60 years, Gwen L. Jennings Kopechne; brother, Raymond Kopetchny; nieces and nephews.
A Memorial Mass will be held at 1:30 p.m. on Saturday at St. Vincents de Paul Roman Catholic Church, Church Street, Plymouth. The Rev. Donald Williams will officiate.
Local arrangements by Kielty-Moran Funeral Home, 87 Washington Ave., Plymouth.
The Times Leader, Wilkes-Barre, Luzerne Co., PA, 31 Dec 2003 and Citizens' Voice, Wilkes-Barre, Luzerne Co., 31 Dec 2003 - Submitted by Patty Matthews.
He was cremated and buried at St. Vincent's Cemetery, Plymouth Twp., Luzerne Co., PA along with his only child, Mary Jo. Joe's wife Gwen Jennings Kopechne is the sister of my husband's mother, Sarah Jennings Matthews (1915-1972).
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