Well, just in case you're interested anyhow, here are a couple photos of the brothel building at Auschwitz. It's now the Visitor's Center.
I'm pinging Atlantic Bridge just in case he wants to check out the photos of the Auschwitz brothel as well.
Posted on 01/20/2006 6:47:55 AM PST by dukeman
The justice minister of the European Union, Franco Frattini, announced this week at the EU parliament in Strasburg that member states which do not eliminate all forms of discrimination against homosexuals, including the refusal to approve “marriage” and unions between same-sex couples, would be subject to sanctions and eventual expulsion from the EU.
According to a report by the Archdioceses of Madrid’s news service Analisis Digital, the commissioner’s statements came as the governments of Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and Poland ruled against legalizing homosexual “marriage.”
“Homophobia is a violation of human rights and we are watching member states on this issue and reporting on cases in which our efforts have been unsuccessful,” Fratti said. In this way “the Commission and the European Parliament seek to make any refusal to grant homosexual couples the same rights as a married couple a crime of ‘homophobia’,” the report warned.
Frattini-- who was elected EU commissioner after the EU parliament rejected the nomination of the Catholic intellectual Rocco Buttiglione because of his opposition to homosexual unions-- has proposed “designating 2007 as the year of Equal Opportunity. The objectives would be to inform the public about their rights, promote diversity and, as a value of the Union, make this goal a priority.”
Some EU parliamentarians demanded specific sanctions against states that do not follow the anti-discrimination law and refuse to call homosexual unions “marriage,” for example. Michael Cashman, President of the European Parliament’s Intergroup on Gay and Lesbian Rights, proposed expulsion from of the EU of those countries that “do not adhere to anti-discrimination legislation.”
“If we do nothing we are accomplices in the crimes of violence that we see occurring in many member states,” said Cashman, who is also vice president of the organization Gay & Lesbian Humanists. The organization’s website says it is at war with “Catholic-inspired homophobia.”
Nevertheless, reports Analisis Digital, these proposals have been contested by Polish EU representative Jan Tadeusz Masiel, who called the adoption of children by homosexual couples “repulsive” and “shocking.” Likewise, her fellow Polish EU representative, Barbara Kurdycka, said the EU Parliament had no business telling people what they should think about homosexuality.
Looks like it will be the Homos and the Muslims secretly sharing power in Eurabia. Why else would Michael Jackson be in Bahrain, are they clandestinely establishing a new Caliphate?
No kidding, huh?
A little double-entendre from an often obscured Jewish philosopher, whose words indeed appear to be living words many years later...
Actually, the reverse is true. I am interested in REAL history, that's why I read William Shirer's history of the Third Reich.
If I wanted to learn about Stalin, would I read books by authors who recognized the evil he did and were willing to find the truth, or read biographies written by slavish followers who wrote fictitious praise, covering up the evil?
Since homosexualists (those who promote homosexuality as I noted above) until recently (and even today, some of them) use the outright lie that 10% of the population is "gay", knowing it to be lie, solely to further their agenda, why should I bother reading crap they write?
So your point is that in order to learn about homosexuality I must read pure drivel propaganda written by those willing to lie to promote deviancy.
That was actually never my point here. I don't care whether you learn more about homosexuality, nor do I think there's anything that you would gain from that. My point was that in order to learn about Nazi ideology, and about World War II, and about the Holocaust then you must let go of your nonsense and read the history for its own sake. The singular obsession with homosexuality is yours, not mine, and that was never my point.
So, if you actually want an accurate portrait of the history of Nazi Germany you basically need to start all over, because this sprawling web of sadomasochist homosexuality that you've built up in your head is nothing but a fevered dream.
I like you spirit!
Just have a minute on FR - AFAIK, the numbers are something like 6 million Jews perished, and 10 or 11 million souls altogether. Could be 12 million, I'd have to look.
What, you think I'm a holocaust denier?
I'll post some excerpts from Pink Swastika later.
Keep in mind that many Jews were outraged when homosexual activists used the Holocaust Memorial to advance their agenda. Many Jews protested verbally and outside the memorial. They were disgusted that their sufferings and the attmpt to annihilate them as a people could be compared to the homosexuals' experience. Homosexuals were never targeted for extinction, only a tiny percentage of homosexuals in Germany were ever incarcerated in camps, they were not worked to death, many influential Nazis and even camp directors were homosexuals themselves, and so on.
I read the account of one old Jewish man who had suffered homosexual rape at the hands of camp authorities. He was outraged that homosexuals were attempting to compare their experience to the plight of the Jewish people under the Nazis.
note to self - quote some excerpts from PS and some of the critiques. I guess a whole bunch of people besides me have brain fever (aka as not swallowing the "gay" agenda).
I know I said I wouldn't reply on this again, but hey! I'm weak.. So, your utterly moronic arguments crossed my mind again and I just wanted to ask you something: Are you aware that most of the concentration camps, including Auschwitz, featured well-staffed brothels? Brothels staffed by German women inmates of course. I can't help but wonder how that fits in with your ridiculous fantasy history..
While we're at it, you can feel free to chime in too. Were you aware that most of the concentration camps, including Auschwitz, featured brothels staffed by German women inmates? When your 'temperature' goes down, by all means try and figure out how that fits into your nonsense fantasy world.
Well, just in case you're interested anyhow, here are a couple photos of the brothel building at Auschwitz. It's now the Visitor's Center.
I'm pinging Atlantic Bridge just in case he wants to check out the photos of the Auschwitz brothel as well.
I don't have much time lately to hang out on FR. Just a couple of minutes here and there. That's why I've handed my pinglists to others, for now. My lack of responses are due to not being on FR, not fear.
No one is saying that all SS, all camp guards, all Nazis were homosexual. Just some. (In addition to the homo-erotic history of Nazism and its forerunners, which is highly interesting.) Your straw man is knocked down yet again.
I will be posting some favorable reviews of the Pink Swastika when I have time, maybe later tonight. And an excerpt or two, and I used to have a link to the online book which I will try to find.
Your intellectual bedefellow's argument was essentially that the Nazi 'race defilement' policy prohibiting the rape of Jewish women was some twisted homosadist scheme to keep men from having sex with women. His absurd, ridiculous position is shot down in no uncertain terms by the fact that the Nazis did nothing consistent with such a scheme, and in fact built and operated brothels (of German women) at the camps.
Your own arguments, mainly just an unskilled rehash of The Pink Swastika are no less ridiculous and inane. There is no group to my knowledge anywhere at anytime in history that did not include some homosexuals. That ranges from the Roman Catholic Church to the U.S. Marine Corps to the Waffen SS. What's relevant is whether their presence was just incidental to the fact that homosexuals are present in some number anywhere, or whether there was actually some genuine, integral association between the two.
Beyond the Night of Long Knives, there quite clearly was not, and even before 1934 their influence was restricted to certain limited elements of the Sturmabteilung and the Schutzstaffel. But you've created this little black box in your mind: anything that contradicts your ridiculous fantasies is "homosexual propaganda" no matter the source or the substance.
So, whatever. Keep on keeping on with your nonsense. As I've already informed you, I do not post for you but rather for those who might accidentally stumble across your nonsense.
No. I didn't say that. Quote me.
I said prohibiting the rape of Jewish women was a componant of the sadomasochistic, homoerotic psychology of the National Socialists and that many of the leadership of the National Socialists were also homosexuals and pedophiles, among other things...
You are an apologist for the homo activists... I find it odd you defend them and also seem to be hell bent on vindicating the NAZIs of their sex perversions somehow.
You like to change the subject and attribute things to others they have not said.
Of course, I could really care less what you think. I know you will continue defending the perverts and dopers as you always have.
Bump
It might apply to the modern post-Christian Western civilization in general.
Well, Lukasz & Gryzgy should be here to defend their EU paymasters any time now.
Here's the price of being part of the Gay Socialist Club of Europe. Did you really think those handouts came free of strings?
And as for quoting you, here it is:
I said: "You and your deranged, demented fantasies that Nazi race-defilement laws were some circuitous homosadist scheme to keep men from getting off..."
You quoted that, and answered: "I never said that... it was just a componant of it..."
I was not any kind of component of it at all. The Nazis did not undertake any policies whatsoever to inhibit men from having sex with women. Quite to the contrary, their procreation of the master race ideology encouraged men to have sex with women, even in brothels.
The Nazi aversion to rape of Jewish women had not the slightest inkling of desire to prevent men from having sex with women as its rationale. It was purely and completely a perverse extension of their vile racist ideologies. Your attempt to portray it otherwise is contemptible to me on several levels.
I do not seek out these kinds of threads. I do not comment in them unless I just happen to stumble across them in the top few threads of the front page, or unless I get pinged to them. I got pinged to this one because of the Europe ping list that I'm on.
The fact of the matter though is that these gay-topic threads seem to attract an astounding proportion of ignorant, outlandish comments, such as this ridiculous portrayal of the Nazis.
You do your cause no favors at all with educated people that can think through and properly evaluate your nonsense. I have no doubt that you believe fanatically in these absurd theories, but it is not so much the ignorance that irks me as the obstinate refusal to even consider the outside possibility that you might just not know what the hell you're talking about.
I am hardly resistent to the notion that a certain type of homosexual was attracted to Nazi ideology, and its parallels in other cultures as well. That is no doubt true. No doubt whatsoever. An excellent example is Adolf Brand and Der Eigene magazine at the turn of the century, a publication that promoted homosexuality as the restoration of German masculine vigor, and a precursor to the type of movements that coalesced into Nazism.
But to represent homosexuality as any kind of defining aspect of Nazism, as some kind of central feature of it and of its leaders, is pure absurdity. It has no validity within the history beyond 1934 and the end of the Rohm cabal.
You don't seem to care about truth. Truth is merely an optional accessory toward your objectives. That is what I find so objectionable in your posts. I'm not like you in that regard. Sorry.
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