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Stern Sirius about silencing Web stream
The Boston Herald ^ | 01/20/2006 | Jesse Noyes

Posted on 01/20/2006 2:57:38 AM PST by Panerai

Howard Stern might have a new bone to pick now that he’s moved his risque show to Sirius Satellite Radio.

And this time it isn’t with the Federal Communications Commission.

The King of All Media is fighting some feisty subjects who don’t want to pay to hear the popular shock jock.

Sirius and Stern’s production company, One Twelve Inc., fired off a cease-and-desist letter to at least one Web site that was rebroadcasting the radio host’s show — billed the “Show” — as an audio stream.

The letter, which was e-mailed to the administrators of www.hearhoward.org and www.hearhoward100.com, called the online broadcasts “blatant” and “willful infringements,” and threatened lawsuits unless the audio streams were immediately removed.

But a Boston area man who says he is the administrator of www.hearhoward.org said he didn’t consider streaming Stern over the Internet theft.

“We’re not making any money off of it. We’re not selling it,” the administrator said, adding that he was a subscriber to Sirius. “I don’t think that they should be charging someone to listen to their service, especially . . . people who don’t have the access to the service.”

The man, who asked not to be identified by name, provided Internet registration data that appeared to verify him as administrator of the site.

A Sirius spokesman called the audio streams online piracy and said the company would do “whatever it takes” to enforce its copyrights. “I think Howard, like us, would appreciate people paying for his show,” said Patrick Reilly of Sirius.

Offering audio online could be a sign of early rebellion from some Stern fans dismayed by the controversial figure’s move to subscription based radio. Stern’s show was broadcast on 104.1 WBCN-FM in Boston before the jock jumped to satellite earlier this month.

Sirius downplayed the issue yesterday. “We’re seeing an enthusiastic response” from Stern’s fans, Reilly said, adding the company added over 2 million subscribers last year.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: demagogue; freaks; howard100; howardstern; infinity; jerk; loudmouth; moremoneythanbrains; sirius; stern
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1 posted on 01/20/2006 2:57:41 AM PST by Panerai
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To: Panerai
I think this falls in the line the common FReeper theory that most fans (not all) of Howard Stern's aren't the type to pay for his services if they can avoid it.

I should add, in Howard's case, it's going to be awful tough to defend this action as "protecting intellectual content". : )

Should be interesting.

2 posted on 01/20/2006 3:06:06 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Panerai

I think the folks over at www.hearhoward100.com

and www.hearhoward.org, should answer their phones when Howard and/or Serius calls with a taped "baba booey...baba booey" and hang up....at leat that would seem appropriate to me.......


3 posted on 01/20/2006 3:09:14 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero

Schmega dance, Jerry.


4 posted on 01/20/2006 3:24:53 AM PST by the tongue
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To: Panerai

Seems to me that with the prevalence of various forms of file sharing that the only value left for certain media is the ability to charge people for listining/viewing the performance live. Were these delayed rebroadcasts? All the shows seem to be readily available via torrents or usenet almost immediately that day. There is no possible way to stop this and I think it is proven that only a strong business model can prevent intellectual property theft.


5 posted on 01/20/2006 3:31:00 AM PST by DaoPian
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To: DaoPian
" only a strong business model can prevent intellectual property theft."


well considering we're talking about Stern, the intellectual property theft is Nil.
6 posted on 01/20/2006 3:58:54 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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To: Caipirabob
in Howard's case, it's going to be awful tough to defend this action as "protecting intellectual content". : )

Doesn't matter if the "intellectual content" wallows in the mud or shines like a mighty beacon from the mountain tops.

Content is content.

If you had the technology, would you rebroadcast HBO?

7 posted on 01/20/2006 4:00:39 AM PST by woofer (No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck.)
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To: woofer
I'm not arguing in favor of it.

You're correct. Howard will simply have to drop the "intellectual" part to be truthful, but either way the law is on his side.

8 posted on 01/20/2006 4:22:00 AM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: woofer

HBO rebroadcasts itself. Over and over , and over.


9 posted on 01/20/2006 4:27:07 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Vaquero

I think the use of the term "intellectual property" has no relation to the subjective quality of the content. Commentary on the content seems to have no relation to the crux of this debate. Discounting his right to protect his product because you don't agree with his form of entertainment is pretty lame. Nobody forces this on anyone, especially when it is a paid service.

The rise of technology and the ability to disseminate information/media quickly and at a low cost has made many of the old models obsolete. RIAA, MPAA, et al can only resort to litigation in an effort to stem the tide. They completely ignore the fundamental breakdown of their aged distribution scheme and are slowly but surely alienating their consumer base. Definition of 'rebroadcast' is surely do for scrutiny. What if someone were to play their Sirius radio real loud so that many surrounding non-subscribers could listen? My opinion on broadcast media is that once the signal leaves the satellite, it becomes public property. Music, software, dvds, well that's a harder nut to crack. Sony's recent efforts to stall copying clearly has blown up in the most spectacular way. Technology created this issue and likely will provide a solution, but not if it is applied to an archaic business model.


10 posted on 01/20/2006 6:27:06 AM PST by DaoPian
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To: Panerai

But...but... aren't these streams helping Stern's speech be more "free"? Didn't Howie throw temper-tantrums because the FCC violated his right to "free speech"?


11 posted on 01/20/2006 6:31:37 AM PST by whd23
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To: DaoPian

"I think the use of the term "intellectual property" has no relation to the subjective quality of the content"


well duh! guess I should have written (sarc) or something to so that everyone who read it would have gotten the drift that I don't think much of Mr. Stern. I could care less about his legal problems and although I have embraced the capitalist mantra, I cant help feeling a little schadenfreude at any discomfort that it might be causing him.


12 posted on 01/20/2006 6:58:36 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero

Gotcha, I agree there is a certain amount of pleasure in seeing his empire subverted so easily. I'd argue that those that pay choose to do so for the convenience. If the pricepoint were a bit lower, then the hassle of downloading or listening online would quickly lose its attraction. I hate to even say it or think it, but maybe internet access could be charged based on bandwidth usage. If someone is surpassing say, 2GB per day, likely there is some type of downloading going on. Unfortunately, distribution of those revenues is still an issue.


13 posted on 01/20/2006 7:13:34 AM PST by DaoPian
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To: DaoPian
There was a great post somewhere on another FR thread which likened the litigation/legislation efforts of the **AA's to the various laws that were passed early in the autombile age to help preserve the various middlemen in the "horse business".

Such as requiring cars to give way to horses under any and all circumstances, demanding that cars only operate at selected hours and on selected streets, requiring that a car be preceded by a flagman, etc.

This is a great parallel and I could not agree more.

14 posted on 01/20/2006 8:14:49 AM PST by Uncle Fud
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To: Panerai

Freedoms go so far in Howard's world. His.


15 posted on 01/20/2006 8:18:34 AM PST by sully777 (Blame Canada!)
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To: Panerai

That link takes me to Ebay, where the domain name is being auctioned off.



-"www.HearHoward100.com - Howard Stern Domain - CHEAP"-


16 posted on 01/20/2006 8:23:31 AM PST by airborne (If being a Christian was a crime, would there be enough evidence to convict you?)
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To: Panerai
For short money one can set up a micro power FM station and rebroadcast or simulcast the show to neighbors (college dorms and frats), and then neighbors can take the signal and relay that using their web connection to friends (network) or rebroadcast that using a micro power FM rig.

Why do this? Has it been done before? Why? Because it is the first demanded "pay" radio. Has it been done before? It has been done for porn for years by way of descramblers, copies of tapes, etc. People will steal what is in demand, period, and Howard should have figured this out before he signed on.
17 posted on 01/20/2006 8:23:59 AM PST by Final Authority
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To: Panerai

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5856874264&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1

www.HearHoward100.com - Howard Stern Domain - CHEAP



Domain on eBay for auction.


18 posted on 01/20/2006 8:26:21 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Panerai
HearHoward.org
is down due to the Cease and Decist
We are ready and willing to respond to any questions comments and suggestions
Please send an e-mail to
 
admin@hearhoward.org

We apologize for any inconvience we caused anyone. We were just trying to help people. However we were in the wrong. We enjoyed it while it lasted. Thank you every one for your support.

19 posted on 01/20/2006 8:27:46 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Panerai

The important this is that we know that if we all disagree with someone, and don't like their show, then its ok to rip them off.


20 posted on 01/20/2006 8:28:36 AM PST by Wolfie
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