Why we [should] care about Darwin wars

Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | 1/19/'06 | David Klinghoffer

[2nsdammit]

"I reject your reality, and substitute my own!"

[orionblamblam]

> The fear of external justice, i.e., God/eternal damnation, is the source of the psychotic behavior (your belief, not mine) for which you complain. I

I'm sure in some cases it is. A perfectly normal person can clearly be driven to madness by an overabundance of hellfire and brimstone.

> Expressions of that belief beyond mere words however, may be a problem, such as advocating societal restrictions, which is the only issue I have with you.

I'm not advocating "society" putting psychotics in mental handcuffs. I'm saying it's important for society that they *are* so handcuffed.

[orionblamblam]

> Time will tell which group is right

Crom worshippers. They'll be back.

[orionblamblam]

And he hit the nail on the head with that one. The most cherished belief of (pick your religion) is considered ludicrous by most of humanity.

[editor-surveyor]

"If you're going to post stupid, provocative material, of course people are going to respond."

And you of all people should know, considering the quantity of the above noted material that you post.

[dread78645]

All of us nonbelievers will become psychopaths.

Is that better than going to hell?

[bondserv]

IMHO, I think God used evolution to create biological life as we know it by the ignition of the universe singularity, thus creating earth. And then at some point, endowed a highly evolved man creature with self-awareness and intellect to understand and accept His rules. This became the God-fearing man that we are today. Problem is, when Adam and Eve ate from the tree of life (i.e. discovered human sexuality, this resulted in perpetuation of the new, human state by pregnancy, new responsibilities then occurred, and the subsequent humanly pursuits of desire and greed. Other tribes continued to evolve but they were primitive and animalistic. And then, when the new human continued to get off track, God saw that it was imperative to manifest a representation of Himself on earth in the form of Christ. Christ's mission was to show us how to live on earth while on earth, and thus move on after death into a different state (heaven) per the second law of thermodynamics.

You just made all that up! Unbiblical, to say the least.

Creation will revert back to it's pre-fall condition, which you will notice nullifies Theistic Evolution.

Isa 11:6-9
6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

Look again at scripture and tell me if things are the way God originally created things.

Gen 3:17-18
17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed [is] the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat [of] it all the days of thy life;
18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

Rom 8:21-22
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

The clincher:

Mar 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. (red letters indicate words spoken by the Christ in Christian)

[Mulch]

A riddle for you:
An eagle is in a desperate search for food to feed her staving eaglets. In a field below, a baby rabbit joyously nibbles on some tender sprouts. Catching sight of the bunny, the eagle launches itself from its nest, speeds towards the tiny rabbit, scoops it up in her talons and carries it to the nest as the rabbit screeches in agony. She tosses the helpless rabbit into the nest and proceeds to tear it apart piece by piece, and feed it to her young.
Question: Is this right or wrong?

[Dan(9698)]

And you of all people should know,

If you would look closer, I haven't posted anything to this thread. I guess you could consider that stupid and provocative seeing as how I didn't get drug into this until now.

I concluded that the Darwinists have their statements of faith that support their belief system, and I should just accept it.

I certainly accept that Born Again Christians have strong faith, and I don't criticize them.

I do, though, wish they would acknowledge it like the Born Again Christians do, and witness that they accept on faith the teachings of their belief system.

[labette]

I am late to the "show" also.

I was just reading the first verses of 2Peter ch3. Surely it was just another one of those coincidences.

[orionblamblam]

> Question: Is this right or wrong?

Let me think: the eagle in question is going out of it's way to feed her children, and proceeds to not only procure very appropriate food (at some personal risk), but to carefully prepare the meal.

Sounds more "right" than many welfare moms.

[Elsie]

"He who laughs last; laughs best."

[ml/nj]

Maybe you should write a book about how to win friends and influence people?

ML/NJ

[bvw]

Or you could read a book on diamond mining. Diamonds are not mined from Tiffany's on Fifth Avenue.

[Pietro]

The point, professor, was my defense of Christianity against your insinuation that we participate in animal sacrifice. A position that you have apparently backed away from.

Nor do I despise education. Over the years, outside of my mortgage, I have invested more of my earnings in education than in any other outlay. In fact, when we lived in the city, my expenses for my children's Catholic School education exceeded my mortgage. It was money well spent.

Rather, it is the educational bureaucracy, so nicely personified by you, that I detest. Your unrelenting and unimaginative attacks on all people of faith strip bare any pretense that academia isn't conducting a war against religion. If calling you out on that is a personal attack then so be it.

Finally, I would recommend to you a small book I came across just yesterday while searching for my copy of "Lives of the Later Ceasars". "Flatland" was written by an eminent 19th cen. scholar named Edwin Abbott. In it he describes the denizens of a two dimentional universe whose philosophy is discommoded by a four dimensional entity, ie a sphere moving in time.

[bvw]

What do you take for granted -- rather I mean what are you aware of that you take for granted?

[Junior]

"He who laughs last; laughs best."

He who laughs last was slow to get the joke.

[Junior]

Is salvation a gift from God, or is it a contract?

[orionblamblam]

An irrelevant diversion from the topic.

[bvw]

The topic is quicksand without such basics.