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To: Kozak; Kolokotronis; kosta50; TeĆ³filo; x5452; Dionysiusdecordealcis; siunevada; kronos77; ...
[Kozak:] Ukraine as part of the Ottoman empire might have been able to escape it's grasp in the 18th or 19th century, like the Greeks and some of the Balkan areas. [...]it may well have been a preferable fate

Have you ever wondered why the Christian nations like Greeks, Serbs and Armenians, which tasted over the long time the tolerant Turkish rule, tend to be very friendly to Russia?

Another question: do you think that Germans, expelled by Stalin sixty years ago, should reclaim their lands in Silesia, Pomerania and East Prussia?

85 posted on 01/20/2006 6:10:53 AM PST by A. Pole (Good Muslims emulate the life of prophet Muhammad. Good Buddhists emulate Buddha. To each his own.)
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To: A. Pole

"Another question: do you think that Germans, expelled by Stalin sixty years ago"

Expelled or exterminated!

http://colley.co.uk/garethjones/soviet_articles/holodomor_letters.htm


91 posted on 01/20/2006 4:48:58 PM PST by spanalot
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To: A. Pole; jb6; x5452; GarySpFc; Cronos; All
Have you ever wondered why the Christian nations like Greeks, Serbs and Armenians, which tasted over the long time the tolerant Turkish rule, tend to be very friendly to Russia?

Greeks and Serbs don't know better. What's the proverb- "Grass always looks greener on the other side". (same as with me I suppose:)). Second, Turks were pussies- the only ones they could bully around were the small Balkan and Caucasian countries. Ukraine is much bigger than these nations.

wish for you to one day know the enlightened rule of the Turks

Russians banned Ukrainian texts and abolished Ukrainian church. How could Turks improve on that?
Here's the ultimate reason of choosing Turks over Russians- because of the cultural/linguistic similarities Russians were seeking to assimilate Ukrainians, eliminate ("kill") the unique Ukrainian ethane's. What of the Turks? They're dark, talk funny and pray to a different God- little or no chance of Ukrainians being assimilated.

Re: Armenian genocide
Russia/USSR matches that with 1932 Famine.

Cronos -- if you had been conquered by the Turks you would now be a Turk, forced to convert to Islam.

No you wouldn't. Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, Greece, Romania, Moldova, Hungary, Bulgaria, Georgia, Armenia- who (according to you) is Muslim?
Russia/Muscowy on the other hand are like the Borg. There used to be distinct Novgorod, Pskov, Tver, Riazan' cultures- now they're all Muscovites/Russian. Belarusian culture should be disappearing any century now as well.

107 posted on 01/21/2006 9:25:06 AM PST by Mazepa
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To: A. Pole

Have you ever wondered why the Christian nations like Greeks, Serbs and Armenians, which tasted over the long time the tolerant Turkish rule, tend to be very friendly to Russia?

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Your insipidly disgusting post reveals so much ignorance. You know nothing of the barbarity of the long nightmare under Muslim Turkish rule as experienced by the Christian Balkans.

Christian nations are friendly to Russia because Russia once again is well on its way to becoming a Xstian country...


150 posted on 01/22/2006 12:49:11 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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