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Our ears once breathed [evolution of ears]
Nature Magazine ^ | 18 January 2006 | Helen Pearson

Posted on 01/18/2006 6:10:34 PM PST by PatrickHenry

Our ears could have started evolutionary life as a tube for breathing, say scientists, after examining the ancestral structure in a 370-million-year-old fossil fish.

Evolutionary biologists are intrigued by how complicated sensory organs evolved from structures that may have had completely different uses in ancestral creatures. The bony structures in ancient fish, which at some point turned into ears, for example, appear to have had mainly a structural function, bracing the cheek and holding up the jaw. How exactly they made the transition to their role in hearing has proved a bit of a mystery.

The ear is a relatively easy organ to study. Its evolving bones have been preserved as fossils, whereas the soft tissues of other specialized features, such as eyes and noses, have long decayed.

So Martin Brazeau and Per Ahlberg of Uppsala University in Sweden decided to take a close look at the ear-like features of an ancient, metre-long monster from the Latvian Natural History Museum in Riga. Panderichthys was a fish, but is thought to be closely related to the earliest four-limbed tetrapods that eventually climbed on to land and gave rise to modern vertebrates.

The researchers examined Panderichthys and found that the bony structures in its head combine features of fish and tetrapods, capturing a snapshot of evolution in action. "It's neat to see that transition," says Hans Thewissen who studies the evolution of the ear and other organs at Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine, Rootstown.

Half-way house

Ancient fish have a narrow channel from the roof of the skull into the mouth, known as a spiracle, which is bounded by a long bone known as the hyomandibula that braces the cheek. In tetrapods, the equivalent bone is stubbier, a step towards the stirrup-like stapes bone that helps to transmit sound waves into our skulls.

The team found that Panderichthys has a wide, straight spiracle rather than a narrow one, and a shortened hyomandibula. They report their findings in Nature1.

Some have previously speculated that our ancient ears may have had a role in breathing.

On the basis of this new fossil evidence, the team speculates that the widened spiracle may have served Panderichthys much like the breathing holes used by modern-day sharks and rays. These allow the fish to inhale water over their gills while lying on the seabed, and avoid gulping in grit through the mouth.

The demonstration of an organ evolving provides tangible evidence against the idea, put forward by some proponents of creationism, that sensory organs are so intricate that they must have been designed by a higher being. Brazeau says: "It's a slap in the face to that kind of thinking."


Footnote 1: Brazeau M. D.& Ahlberg P. E. Nature, 439. 318 - 321 (2006).


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: crevolist; sweden
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To: wyattearp
LOL--peers are just that--peers, flawed as anyone is flawed.

My problem is the White Coat Sainthood and this hushed tone of awe in the Temple of Science. You wouldn't dream of granting it to a physician (as well you should not)--why a PhD evo-biologist or cosmologist or archeologist? They are the least accountable of scientists, because how can you hold whimsy and speculation to account?

All I can say is--spend a little time in academia to know of what I write. The gnawing anxiety for the next grant--the need to publish-publish-publish any nonsense just to satisfy the university politicians who are more interested in word count than substance--there is a lot of psychic pressure.

101 posted on 01/18/2006 7:03:15 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Ichneumon

What a flake!


102 posted on 01/18/2006 7:04:07 PM PST by Barnacle (The Democrat Party consists of a gaggle of criminal defense attorneys, and their clients.)
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To: claptrap
Why did some fish change and others havent changed much at all?

Could be it wasn't in their genes. Could be due to various selective pressures. Could be it wasn't advantageous.

I suggest reading a couple of good biology texts before getting on these threads.

103 posted on 01/18/2006 7:04:55 PM PST by Rudder
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To: wyattearp

But still larger than an wannabe.


104 posted on 01/18/2006 7:05:54 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Rudder

We can't have a good evo thread without lots of evos telling people to shut up.


105 posted on 01/18/2006 7:06:18 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
Fraud is rife in scientific academia. The stakes are high--prestige, money, status, money, careers, money, tenure, money. A scientist is just as likely as anyone else to fall to tempation.

Why is that proviso particularly operative against THIS article? There's less money available in paleontology (and evolution related subjects generally) than in most scientific fields. Consequently there is LESS fraud. In fact fraud is extremely rare in evolution related fields, as is evident because it would be played up by the press whenever uncovered there. (Exception: fraud by entrepreneurial fossil vendors, although their fraud is almost always exposed BY working scientists.)

Fraud is most common where the most money is, thus the vast majority of scientific fraud occurs in bio-medical fields.

106 posted on 01/18/2006 7:06:45 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Alas the article is so full of "could of's" and "speculate" that it's hardly science.

You know, the ear could of evolved from mothers pulling their kids up by the side of the head. I speculate that this pulling motion hurt the kids and hearing evolved as a kind of early warning system that let them know when their mom was coming to pull on their head.

Now I'm an evolutionist. Pay me.

107 posted on 01/18/2006 7:07:36 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Mamzelle

Shut Up. (There; happy now?)


108 posted on 01/18/2006 7:07:44 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: pa mom

God did create evolution. And it was designed to work that way. imho. LOL!


109 posted on 01/18/2006 7:08:29 PM PST by phantomworker ("Don't accuse me of your imagination.")
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To: Mamzelle
John Edwards used him to claim that Christopher Reed could be cured if it were not for the "anti-science" Republicans.

Which Christopher Reed?

The UC Riverside Chemuist, the Canadian actor, the UC Berkley historian, or the English Journalist? I'd like to know where to sent the "Get well Soon" card.

110 posted on 01/18/2006 7:08:37 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering)
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To: wfallen
It cant explain how "irreducibly complex" organisms evolve...

They don't, and there aren't any irreducibly complex organs.

111 posted on 01/18/2006 7:09:17 PM PST by Rudder
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To: Mamzelle

Wow. You are really upset. What happened to you to make you feel this way, if you don't mind my asking? Your arguments aren't arguments, they are emotional outbursts. It reminds me of somebody lashing out at someone or something that has hurt them, and badly. I honestly do not know how to respond. I wont pursue this conversation any further, if you'd rather.


112 posted on 01/18/2006 7:10:34 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Mamzelle
My problem is the White Coat Sainthood and this hushed tone of awe in the Temple of Science. You wouldn't dream of granting it to a physician (as well you should not)--why a PhD evo-biologist or cosmologist or archeologist?

Your statement is odd since your main argument against science seems to be claims of rampant fraud. Physicians commit FAR, FAR, FAR more scientific fraud than evolutionists, cosmologists or archaeologists.

113 posted on 01/18/2006 7:11:03 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Yeah and evidence shows most Democrats can still talk out of their rear ends. :)


114 posted on 01/18/2006 7:11:33 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: PatrickHenry

YEC INTREP


115 posted on 01/18/2006 7:11:35 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America)
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To: Stultis
re: In fact fraud is extremely rare in evolution related field)))

That's because you can't catch fraud you can't prove. You can't prove or disprove a speculation, intellectual playfulness and hijinks, but you can prove that a drug kills people when you have said it helps people. (biochem--pharms) I'm glad you brought up pharmacology.

I'm interested in them as investments--and as evos are so fond of telling people "go shut and read"--evos might take instruction from the way that pharmaceudicals are researched and written about. All those "maybes" and "hopes" and "possibilities" and "probablities"--all those cautious qualifiers because errors are so deadly.

116 posted on 01/18/2006 7:11:40 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Doctor Stochastic

But more relevant than a couldabeen.


117 posted on 01/18/2006 7:11:45 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Mamzelle
Fraud is rife in scientific academia. The stakes are high--prestige, money, status, money, careers, money, tenure, money. A scientist is just as likely as anyone else to fall to tempation.

Did you just go through a divorce from a scientist? Man, you are one bitter and ill-informed person, and it seems you hate science.

118 posted on 01/18/2006 7:12:34 PM PST by Rudder
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To: Stultis
Physicians are caught in fraud because their errors die and smell up the place. If all you do is wave your hands and "surmise"--what error will kill someone? By the way, a Norwegian doc was caught just this week touting a treatment that was supported by fabrications--and the only thing that caught him out were the people who worked with him.
120 posted on 01/18/2006 7:14:18 PM PST by Mamzelle
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