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The Man Who Said No to Wal-Mart
http://money.aol.com/ ^ | 1 18 06 | Charles Fishman

Posted on 01/18/2006 9:32:09 AM PST by freepatriot32

What struck Jim Wier first, as he entered the Wal-Mart vice president's office, was the seating area for visitors. "It was just some lawn chairs that some other peddler had left behind as samples." The vice president's office was furnished with a folding lawn chair and a chaise lounge.

And so Wier, the CEO of lawn-equipment maker Simplicity, dressed in a suit, took a seat on the chaise lounge. "I sat forward, of course, with my legs off to the side. If you've ever sat in a lawn chair, well, they are lower than regular chairs. And I was on the chaise. It was a bit intimidating. It was uncomfortable, and it was going to be an uncomfortable meeting."

It was a Wal-Mart moment that couldn't be scripted, or perhaps even imagined. A vice president responsible for billions of dollars' worth of business in the largest company in history has his visitors sit in mismatched, cast-off lawn chairs that Wal-Mart quite likely never had to pay for.

The vice president had a bigger surprise for Wier, though. Wal-Mart not only wanted to keep selling his lawn mowers, it wanted to sell lots more of them. Wal-Mart wanted to sell mowers nose-to-nose against Home Depot and Lowe's.

Usually," says Wier, "I don't perspire easily." But perched on the edge of his chaise, "I felt my arms getting drippy."

Wier took a breath and said, "Let me tell you why it doesn't work."

Tens of thousands of executives make the pilgrimage to northwest Arkansas every year to woo Wal-Mart, marshaling whatever arguments, data, samples, and pure persuasive power they have in the hope of an order for their products, or an increase in their current order. Almost no matter what you're selling, the gravitational force of Wal-Mart's 3,811 U.S. "doorways" is irresistible. Very few people fly into Northwest Arkansas Regional Airport thinking about telling Wal-Mart no, or no more.

In 2002, Jim Wier's company, Simplicity, was buying Snapper, a complementary company with a 50-year heritage of making high-quality residential and commercial lawn equipment. Wier had studied his new acquisition enough to conclude that continuing to sell Snapper mowers through Wal-Mart stores was, as he put it, "incompatible with our strategy. And I felt I owed them a visit to tell them why we weren't going to continue to sell to them."

Selling Snapper lawn mowers at Wal-Mart wasn't just incompatible with Snapper's future -- Wier thought it was hazardous to Snapper's health. Snapper is known in the outdoor-equipment business not for huge volume but for quality, reliability, durability. A well-maintained Snapper lawn mower will last decades; many customers buy the mowers as adults because their fathers used them when they were kids. But Snapper lawn mowers are not cheap, any more than a Viking range is cheap. The value isn't in the price, it's in the performance and the longevity.

You can buy a lawn mower at Wal-Mart for $99.96, and depending on the size and location of the store, there are slightly better models for every additional $20 bill you're willing to put down -- priced at $122, $138, $154, $163 and $188. That's six models of lawn mowers below $200. Mind you, in some Wal-Marts you literally cannot see what you are buying; there are no display models, just lawn mowers in huge cardboard boxes.

The least expensive Snapper lawn mower -- a 19-inch push mower with a 5.5-horsepower engine -- sells for $349.99 at full list price. Even finding it discounted to $299, you can buy two or three lawn mowers at Wal-Mart for the cost of a single Snapper.

If you know nothing about maintaining a mower, Wal-Mart has helped make that ignorance irrelevant: At even $138, the lawn mowers at Wal-Mart are cheap enough to be disposable. Use one for a season, and if you can't start it the next spring (Wal-Mart won't help you out with that), put it at the curb and buy another one. That kind of pricing changes not just the economics at the low end of the lawn-mower market, it changes expectations of customers throughout the market. Why would you buy a walk-behind mower from Snapper that costs $519? What could it possibly have to justify spending $300 or $400 more?

That's the question that motivated Jim Wier to stop doing business with Wal-Mart. Wier is too judicious to describe it this way, but he looked into a future of supplying lawn mowers and snowblowers to Wal-Mart and saw a whirlpool of lower prices, collapsing profitability, offshore manufacturing and the gradual but irresistible corrosion of the very qualities for which Snapper was known. Jim Wier looked into the future and saw a death spiral.

Wier had two things going for him: First, he had another way to get his lawn mowers to customers -- a well-established network of independent lawn-equipment dealers that accounted for 80 percent of Snapper's sales. And Wier had the courage, the foresight, to take an unblinking view of where his Wal-Mart business was heading -- not in year three, or year four, but year 10.

Wier traveled to Bentonville with a firm grasp of the values of Snapper, the dynamics of the lawnmower business, the needs of the dealers, the needs of the Snapper customer, and the needs of the Wal-Mart customer. He was not dazzled by the tens of millions of dollars' worth of lawn mowers Wal-Mart was already selling for Snapper; he was not deluded about his ability to beat Wal-Mart at its own game, to somehow resist the price pressure. He was not imagining that he could take the sales now and figure out the profits later.

Jim Wier believed that Snapper's health -- indeed, its very long-term survival -- required that it not do business with Wal-Mart.

The meeting started with the vice president of the category saying how it was clear that Lowe's was going to build their outdoor power-equipment business with the Cub Cadet brand, and how Home Depot was going to build theirs with John Deere," says Wier. "Wal-Mart wanted to build their outdoor power-equipment business around the Snapper brand. Were we prepared to go large?"

Talk about coming to the table with different agendas. Wier was in Bentonville to pull his mowers from Wal-Mart's stores. The vice president was offering a greater temptation: Let's join hands and go head-to-head against the home-improvement superstores.

Which is when Wier said no.

"As I look at the three years Snapper has been with you," he told the vice president, "every year the price has come down. Every year the content of the product has gone up. We're at a position where, first, it's still priced where it doesn't meet the needs of your clientele. For Wal-Mart, it's still too high-priced. I think you'd agree with that.

"Now, at the price I'm selling to you today, I'm not making any money on it. And if we do what you want next year, I'll lose money. I could do that and not go out of business. But we have this independent-dealer channel. And 80% of our business is over here with them. And I can't put them at a competitive disadvantage. If I do that, I lose everything. So this just isn't a compatible fit."

The Wal-Mart vice president responded with strategy and argument. Snapper is the sort of high-quality nameplate, like Levi Strauss, that Wal-Mart hopes can ultimately make it more Target-like. He suggested that Snapper find a lower-cost contract manufacturer. He suggested producing a separate, lesser-quality line with the Snapper nameplate just for Wal-Mart. Just like Levi did.

"My response was, we would take a look at that," says Wier. "The reason I gave that response was, it was a legitimate question. In my own mind, I knew where I'd go with that"--no thanks--"but at that kind of meeting you at least have to be willing to say, I'll investigate." And that was it. "The tone at the end was, We're not going forward as a supplier."

No lightning bolt struck. Except that Snapper instantly gave up almost 20% of its business. "But when we told the dealers that they would no longer find Snapper in Wal-Mart, they were very pleased with that decision. And I think we got most of that business back by winning the hearts of the dealers."

One serious hazard to Wier's strategy is that independent lawn-equipment dealers face all the same pressures that have killed, for instance, many independent hardware stores and toy stores. "That is a legitimate question and a legitimate concern," says Wier. "I think we have a part in that outcome. Can Snapper, as a major supplier, continue to supply [the independents] with great product, and a product different than you can buy at Wal-Mart?"

Wier says, "I'm probably pro-Wal-Mart. I'm certainly not anti-Wal-Mart. I believe Wal-Mart has done a great service to the country in many ways. They offer reasonably good product at very good prices, and they've streamlined the entire distribution system. And it may be that along the way, they've driven some people out of business who shouldn't have been driven out of business." Wier wasn't going to let that happen to Snapper.

Wier had determined to lead Snapper to focus on quality, and through quality, on cachet. Not every car is a Honda Accord or a Toyota Camry; there is more than enough business to support Audi and BMW and Lexus. And so it is with lawn mowers, Wier hoped. Still, perhaps the most remarkable thing is that the Wal-Mart effect is so pervasive that it sets the metabolism even of companies that purposefully do no business with Wal-Mart.

And the power and allure of Wal-Mart is such that even Jim Wier, the man who said no to Wal-Mart, a man who knows all the reasons why that was the right decision, has slivers of doubt.

"I could go to my grave, and my tombstone could say, 'Here lies the dumbest CEO ever to live. He chose not to sell to Wal-Mart.' "

Snapper was successfully integrated into Simplicity, which in 2004 was itself bought by Briggs & Stratton, the company that makes many of the engines in Snapper and Simplicity mowers. Simplicity and Snapper operate as independent divisions, and Wier remained CEO of both until last summer, when he resigned to join the private equity firm Kohlberg & Co. In McDonough, business is strong.

Go to: Fast Company's Full-Length Article


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas
KEYWORDS: man; no; said; the; to; wallybasher; wallyworld; walmart; wehavesignal; whatyousay; who
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To: freepatriot32

Vlasic pickles said yes and got killed. Once people could get a gallon jar for two bucks at WM no one wanted to pay four bucks in the grocery store.


161 posted on 09/04/2006 1:18:16 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Oberon
What does it take to make government shrink?

365 days of paid vacation for Congress.

162 posted on 09/04/2006 1:39:29 PM PDT by beyond the sea (I have a man I can't trust. He cheats so much, I'm not even sure the baby I'm carrying is his.)
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To: MineralMan

I never owned a Snapper, but have seen plenty of them. My brother in law has two; one he keeps up on blocks waiting for parts and the other he tries to start once in a while. This is the extreme case because he is the worst owner of anything mechanical. Neglect, abuse and disuse are his middle names.<P.

The thing I didn't like about the classiscal riding snapper was the "you gotta pull it crank" and the interlocks all over the damn thing. No electric start (that is, cheaply) and a very flimsy front carriage. Engine in the rear gives good traction, but when I was a kid we used to do wheelies with them because the front end was too light. I now cut grass on a 30 degree hill and if I had a Snapper I'd have to do it sideways with my ass halfway off the seat. It's kinda like squatting to pee for a man....a good mower will go up that hill straight and not 'wheelie' on you.....


163 posted on 09/04/2006 1:50:41 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Oberon

If I can figure it out, surely an "expert" can. That's the point.

Moreover, expertise is not an indicator of intellectual capacity.

An expert is someone who paints blue houses but refuses to paint a house beige because he's not an expert in beige paint.


164 posted on 09/04/2006 1:54:55 PM PDT by AmishDude (`[N]on-state actors' can project force around the world more easily than Canada". -- Mark Steyn)
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To: beyond the sea

I notice this thread took an 8-month nap before some Wally-basher woke it up.


165 posted on 09/04/2006 1:55:59 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Graybeard58
I just replaced a mower after 6 years. It was a 5.5 HP rotary sold at Home Depot. The frame supporting the recoil starter cracked all the way through from metal fatigue. I repaired it, but the front wheel drive was also stripped and the exit chute was perpetually getting jammed with wet grass.

My new mower is a Honda HR215. The mower deck is cast steel. The exit chute is 8" x 10". It rarely jams. The engine is a very smooth Honda product. It is less noisy than the old Brigss & Stratton. The rear bag is easier to remove, empty and replace. I can leave the engine running after disengaging the blade. The multi-speed rear wheel drive can be engaged/disengaged with the motor running and blade moving or it can be used with the blade stationary. My old mower required killing the engine to stop the blade. A real waste of time when tall grass makes it necessary to empty the bag after one circuit around the yard.

I expect the Honda mower will be the last one I need to buy in my lifetime. Most owners are getting 15 to 20 years out of them. I'm 50 now. By the time is ceases to be serviceable, I'll probably be willing to pay a gardner.

166 posted on 09/04/2006 1:58:36 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: freepatriot32

Gourmet lawn mowers?

Forget it....


167 posted on 09/04/2006 1:58:53 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: ozzymandus
Anything to light the fire. Just call me 'Sparky'.

;-)

168 posted on 09/04/2006 1:59:10 PM PDT by beyond the sea (I have a man I can't trust. He cheats so much, I'm not even sure the baby I'm carrying is his.)
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To: beyond the sea

Well, you got the lawn-mower croud excited, looks like! I suppose I could chime in about my 12-yr old MTD rider, but I hate mowing the lawn. :>)


169 posted on 09/04/2006 2:02:33 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus
I live in Pittsburgh and cut my grass twice all year. No one around, very private ...... who cares.

Our cats love walking through the long grass.........

;-)

170 posted on 09/04/2006 2:06:43 PM PDT by beyond the sea (I have a man I can't trust. He cheats so much, I'm not even sure the baby I'm carrying is his.)
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To: newcthem
The road is littered with Wal Mart causalities. Just read the Rubbermaid story and it will make you think very hard about doing business with them. They have killed more businesses than Jimmy Carter.
171 posted on 09/04/2006 2:17:09 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: MamaB

"I told our daughter that I did not know what we would do if he ever retired. He is the most reliable person we ever had."

My guy is the same way. He is Mr. Reliable. I tried doing it when I first bought my house and it took so long that I figure my income was probably $1.78/hour. My guy is one of the hardest working people I know. I had to make him leave on Christmas one year. It was embarassing...somebody working on your yard on Christmas. I politely asked him to leave.

Some people don't care about comparing costs, though. For them, there is additional psychic value from lawn work. Seeing the finished product...the straight lines...actually finishing a project in one day is invigorating, as opposed to being at work and having projects last for months. Many things.

That's why I think this discussion is interesting. Everybody can have a different opinion, but still be right. Everybody does not get that psychic feedback. There area those that like to buy one good product and have it last 10 years and there are those that prefer a cheap product and have it last 1-3 years.

That's why they make BMW's and Buicks...Zegna and Walmart suits...etc.


172 posted on 09/04/2006 2:22:51 PM PDT by cowtowney
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To: AlexW

This is the article I was talking about. New Walmart CEO and new not so great corporate policies for manufactures, consumers, or our nation in general.


173 posted on 11/01/2009 12:41:00 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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