Advanced weapon created by Western culture:
Posted on 01/17/2006 1:31:49 PM PST by WKB
Rev. R. Albert Mohler, Jr., the president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, says it's "an absolute revolt against God's design" if husbands and wives purposely avoid bearing children.
On his Web site and other articles and interviews, Mohler argues that "marriage, sex and children are part of one package" and that "to deny any part of this wholeness is to reject God's intention in creation and his mandate revealed in the Bible."
In a CNN interview, the Baptist leader added, “We grow up by having children. Without that responsibility, we have a generation of perpetual adolescents just growing old."
He refers, perhaps, to an old commandment: "Multiply and replenish the earth." These days we multiply baby murders instead. If those 40 million or so babies had remained alive since Roe v Wade, what would our population be today, one wonders...? We have added maybe as many as 20 million illegals, but how many babies have we produced since the 70's? Are we, like the eurotrash, losing population and doomed to become a third world backwater ruled by illegals and Muslims?
Assuming that you mean a physical confrontation, that would be meaningless in terms of who is right or who is wrong. We abandoned trial by ordeal or contest long ago.
Your choices or any potential sins are between you and God against whom there is no standing.
BTW, since I've become a judoka, I've discovered that even though I'm an above average guy in size and strength, it's disturbingly easy for me to lose a fight even to guys that weigh 100lbs less than me. But as an American and a Freeper, I'm not afraid to be an opinionated jerk and I don't think I need to come to your house but I'm glad that I would be welcome.
When you are 75 years old, sitting and looking out into the backyard with no grandkids to watch play, make cookies for or spoil...
then you might just regret not having children...
Yeah but that's her decision to make. If that's how her life goes, then so be it. I'm not sure she needs the "wrath of God" thrown in for good measure.
God protect us all from fundamentalists.
Advanced weapon created by Western culture:
No one likes to be told that they are sinning but everybody sins. I think the Dr would have been far more pursuasive if he said that in many cases, deliberate barreness is a symptom and unfortunate consequence of sin rather than a sin in itself. (whether or not it is)
I thought Dawsonville_Doc's challenge if serious was not especially courageous given the fact that no one is likely or even interested in taking it up and because it would not be worth the effort, nor would it prove anything other than the mutual stupidity of the contenders. I'd give him direction to my judo club with the stipulation that if I lose, I would not have to admit that Dr Mohler is wrong and that DDoc would not break my arm or choke me out or inflict any other permanent bodily harm. Since I have seven kids with one on the way. That would be a sin!!!
Too clever by half eh :-)
So it's not like Monty Python: "filth for sale, get your lovely filth here......" LOL
Obviously, government welfare is an unfair imposition upon the taxpayers who pay for it without receiving the boodle.
Sorry for your pain. I've had two ex-wives. Finding Jesus got me through..... good luck.
Luke 6:37........Amen
Ah! So, for example, the apostle Paul was an immature adolescent, spiritually speaking.
Illogical, the RCC would have left that out of the Bible since they want Priests to be celibate and unmarried.
There was a passage where if a man's wifes sisters husband dies he is to take the widow in as another wife..... don't have a Bible search on my PC...
Did it ever occur to you that some family trees ought to be clogged up?
No guilt here, my man. I did what I did because it was the right decision for me, and if faced with the situation and with the hindsight that I have since acquired, I would make the exact same decision again.
I sense that with you, it's one size fits all. Maybe when you acquire a little experience you will understand that's not the way people behave, or should behave.
Very well said. My wife and I worked hard (no pun intended) to get our 14 year old boy/girl twins here. It took more than just normal man/wife interaction. It took money and modern science. Our kids have filled our lives with joy (most of the time).
That said, I never got the argument about selfishness for not wanting to have chilren. Nothing is being withheld from anyone. It would be selfish to have children and then not provide for them, but how can one be selfish in regard to children that are not born? To whom is this duty to procreate owed? As indicated in your post, God's statement was to Adam and Eve, and they, along with China, have abundantly responded to God's command. Few think that there is a shortage of humans today.
I do think those who choose to remain childless are missing out, but that is their choice, not mine, or anyone else's.
And with all those millions of chilldren almost 3 generations now, NO problem with social security either!
Try this
http://www.bible.org/
She at first suggested counseling, with a Christian Counselor. I agreed and went. When I told her that I think I can work with the guy she claimed that we had conspired against her. Never mind she choose him, had the first solo session with him and it was our first meeting.
She then suggested that we seperate so she could have a little space to clear her mind. Telling her that action would be the beginning of the end, she said that it wouldn't, she would need 30-60 days and that I thought I knew everything. Stupidly, I found a place to stay. She never looked back.
After six months, I started pushing her to initiate whatever action she was going to take. I was living very frugally and still depositing my paycheck into our common account. I existed on about $50 per week, including food and shelter. She decided she was in no hurry, because this income windfall was helping her to pay the bills. She also started hiding money because her "friends" had convinced her that I was doing the same. I wasn't. She had access to all accounts, got all the mail and could monitor all transactions I had initiated in any account. But they convinced her, so she began doing it to me. BTW, these were all "Christians" who were in her support group.
We met for dinner one evening and discussed the final divy of assets. She began to waver, so she called her friend who advised that she had "made it this far so why give in. He's only manipulating you."
Let me tell you, it hurt like hell to go through it.
I was lucky. I worked with a lady who was divorced for 25 years, was a serious lady of the lord and was always friendly to me. We met for dinner one night and it went on from there. We married shortly thereafter.
Is everything perfect? No. But it is much, much better than the first one that I fought with everything I had to keep. This one thinks the world of me, wants me to lead our family and wants us to work for the common good of our family. In return, I've promised never to treat her as a doormat and to love her in return. In over three years of marriage, we've never had a serious dust up. We are fortunate.
End to a long story, sometimes there are happy endings. Yours may come to that.
Sorry wrong link
Try this one
http://www.biblegateway.com/
That's a rather broad brush you are using there.
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