SUPREME COURT UPHOLDS OREGON'S SUICIDE LAW

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[RinaseaofDs]

Sorry, Stevens. (Jones - a little Led Zepplin influence I guess)

[al_again]

I was responding to you - unfortunately it looks like I still haven't mastered copy/paste!

[Gondring]

Come on this matter is something the government, federal or state, should NOT even be getting involved in.

Agreed. I also support the majority against the Big Government Nanny approach. Get the government out of peoples' lives, and let them make their own choices!

But WHY do doctors et al have to get involved in this? It's something I don't think should be legislated in any matter. With no legislation, one can still handily kill themselves without their corpse being thrown in the slammer.

Agreed. It's ridiculous that the legislation has required a prescription to obtain a lethal dose. What kind of Culture of Disrespect^TM would say that the government has more right to run an individual's life than he does himself!? I'm glad that conservative, individual rights have been protected!

[mvpel]

...you watch a loved one scream in agony day after day, because the morphine just isn't working anymore.

That's because thanks to the Controlled Substances Act, doctors are afraid to administer enough pain medication to control serious pain, because of the risk of criminal prosecution.

[La Enchiladita]

The majority, who has proven time and time again that they don't value states rights, suddenly uses states rights as the deciding factor.

Exactly. The law being used as an expedient basis for politics.

[Borges]

How is allowing a state law to stand activism? If anything its inactivism. :-)

[rhombus]

READ THOMAS' DISSENT!!!

Love to... link please?

[BunnySlippers]

Good for you. I did the same with my family as I lost my grandmother, my only brother and my mother.

They are family and deserve our love and respect.

[antceecee]

Many years ago a member of my family would contiually try to kill herself. Back then (70's) they would hold her for two weeks in mental ward at the hospital and try to help her. Today they will let her die.

The family member is my Mom.... she is well today thanks to drugs that help her to balance out her manic depressive moods. Wanting to kill yourself use to be looked upon as abnormal. Now it is normal, especially if you are ill or elderly (In other words: of no use to society). I guess this will be the answer to the busted social security program, euthanasia.

[Gondring]

Don't get doctors and governments involved.

The laws get doctors involved, as the law blocks a citizen from obtaining the medications without a prescription. I would prefer if the doctors and government weren't involved, and that medications were available without prescription, unless there's a public-health danger (such as with antibiotics and overuse).

[GSlob]

Anything that is legal for you to do, is legal for the others to help you with - at your request and initiative, goes without saying.

[steve86]

If I was termanally ill, I would want this option, I dont see why Conservatives are against this. Its your life.

Four spelling mistakes in one line. A new FR record?

BTW, many conservatives are offended because God is offended.

[OXENinFLA]

http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/17jan20061050/www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/05pdf/04-623.pdf

Way at the bottom...

[eyespysomething]

Footnote to Thomas singular dissent opinion. He in essence says that since the SC rules that the medical marijuana case (Reich) violated the commerce clause and feds could control it, that has to be the prevailing rule here alsao, as this is more true to interstate commerce (prescription medicine)

He makes a valid point, and I can see his argument, but I agree with the majority. I just disagree with their opinion of it. I also disagreed with the Reich case ruling. That being said, Justice Thomas is a smart smart man.

The respondents in Raich were “local growers and users of state-authorized, medical marijuana,” who stood “outside the interstate drug market” and possessed “ ‘medicinal marijuana . . . not intended for . . . the stream of commerce.’ ” 545 U. S., at ___, ___, (slip op., at 5, 16) (THOMAS, J., dissenting). Here, by contrast, the respondent-physicians are active participants in the interstate controlled substances market, and the drugs they prescribe for assisting suicide have likely traveled in interstate commerce. If the respondents in Raich could not sustain a constitutional claim, then a fortiori respondents here cannot sustain one. Respondents’ acceptance of Raich forecloses their constitutional challenge.

[oceanview]

Roberts is OK. Alito will be a badly needed replacement for OConnor.

But we need one more - Ginsburg or Stevens - you thought the Alito hearings were contentious, that's going to be beanbag compared to a replacement for Ginsburg or Stevens.

[EternalVigilance]

Life is an unalienable right, an endowment of the G-d, the Creator. A just and lawful Government may not declare murder legal, nor suicide.

Exactly.

[Gelato]

Fine I can accept this decision. But now let's apply the same standard to abortion, sodomy, medical marijuana etc. Leave the issue to the states.

You left out slavery.

/sarcasm

[Cboldt]

I dont see why Conservatives are against this. Its your life.

The disconnect is because people have different bases for their position, or outcome. SOme object to suicide as a matter of moral principle, others object to any nanny.

[eyespysomething]

Oops on my misspelling of Raich as Reich

[GSlob]

"It seems all too cowardly to me"
Being a coward is not against the law. Besides, one of my shooting students [I happen to be an instructor] committed suicide by shooting himself under the chin with .44 magnum. I am ashamed to say that he was such a poor shot that, despite having splattered most of his head around, he died only in the hospital. Thus even in shooting himself he would have benefited from some professional advice on aiming.