Posted on 01/17/2006 12:23:17 AM PST by neverdem
The U.S. Border Patrol has warned agents in Arizona of incursions into the United States by Mexican soldiers "trained to escape, evade and counterambush" if detected -- a scenario Mexico denied yesterday.
The warning to Border Patrol agents in Tucson, Ariz., comes after increased sightings of what authorities described as heavily armed Mexican military units on the U.S. side of the border. The warning asks the agents to report the size, activity, location, time and equipment of any units observed.
It also cautions agents to keep "a low profile," to use "cover and concealment" in approaching the Mexican units, to employ "shadows and camouflage" to conceal themselves and to "stay as quiet as possible."
Border Patrol spokesman Salvador Zamora confirmed that a "military incursion" warning was given to Tucson agents, but said it was designed to inform them how to react to any sightings of military and foreign police in this country and how to properly document any incursion.
Mr. Zamora added that although incursions by the Mexican military do occur, they usually have taken place in areas of the border "not marked by monuments or signs." He said U.S. military units also have crossed mistakenly into Mexico.
But Rafael Laveaga, spokesman for the Mexican Embassy in Washington, denied that Mexican military personnel are crossing into the United States.
"I strongly deny any incursions by the Mexican military as inaccurate allegations," Mr. Laveaga said. "The Mexican military is a well-respected institution with strict rules on how to control Northern Mexico. It maintains a protocol of not going within a mile of the border, and those who would trespass would be severely punished."
Mr. Laveaga said some drug smugglers headed "both north and south" wear uniforms and drive military-type vehicles, and might have "confused"...
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
Good grief, when are they going to build that wall?
" Mr. Zamora added that although incursions by the Mexican military do occur, they usually have taken place in areas of the border "not marked by monuments or signs." He said U.S. military units also have crossed mistakenly into Mexico. "
All the more reason for a defining wall so our Mexican amigos don't get "confused".
I don't deny it. But that is not the same as saying that it's the policy of the Mexican government. It's a not-so-subtle distinction.
I think it highly likely that there are numerous Mexican government officials who have been bought and paid for by the drug cartels.
The question is, though, on whom do we declare war in that case? If you're suggesting that this is the official policy of Mexico, then these incursions would be an act of war.
However, if the corrupt folks are implementing the "policy" of the drug lords, then the situation is quite a bit different.
Apologies to those on the list who are already here, like Marine Inspector and Travis McGee.
Border Patrol spokesman Salvador Zamora confirmed that a "military incursion" warning was given to Tucson agents, but said it was designed to inform them how to react to any sightings of military and foreign police in this country and how to properly document any incursion.
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You win the Green as Grass Award for January. Have you ever been to Mexico? Have you ever read the history of Mexico? You can't believe anything they say, and you always cover your back. Corruption is their way of life, and they feel they have a moral right to get what they want, period. Come down to the border and live there a year and then get back to us who do live there.
If the federal Mexican govt has no control over its corrupt police and military forces to the extent that they feel free to cross the border to engage in drug smuggling, what difference does in make if it is "policy" or not? The effect is the same.
I urge EVERYONE to read the above statement and understand what it means.
This order to stand back has to come directly from Washington/The White House.
To simply say that this is alarming is a grave understatement.
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,
1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.
And you are denying the truth because your logic doesn't let you see it.
Wake up, my FRiend. Their military has indeed crossed the border down here in southern Arizona I know, and elsewhere I suspect.
You cannot have missed that I made those points before you reminded me of them.
The real question is whether this activity is an official act of war by Mexico; or the result of corruption, and thus non-official.
I seriously doubt that this is Mexico's official policy.
If it's "policy," it's an act of war -- one government to another. Surely you see that the response to acts of war, and therefore the effects, should be different than for criminal activity?
Were Pancho Villa's raids official Mexican govt policy, or had the Mexican govt lost control of great areas of Mexico?
These incidents are well known among those of us who live in remote areas on the border. I have often wondered why it is not widely reported. Major events happen on the border all the time and if the event makes the news at all, it is only in the local papers and even then is buried or played down. Many politicians and the media seem to have an agenda that Mexico is our "friendly neighbor to the South" and anything that interferes with that notion is not reported.
Spend some time doing a thorough internet search about Mexican Military incursions and you will find enough to convince you. I once even found on the US State Department site a letter sent to Mexico a few years ago discussing the incursions. It was a watered down "please stop" letter that infuriated me.
Our biggest issue in trying to get something done about this border is that people who don't live here refuse to believe what really goes on here.
Tammy, if you can find that letter again and post it, I'll ping the list to it.
I suspect a lot of folks would become a bit more incensed - as you were - if they could see it.
The Mexican Military helps smugglers get past our Border Patrol. Smuggling of drugs and people is very profitible and these incidents happen when our enforcement is being effective in shutting down a popular smuggling route.
If you understand what really goes on along the remote areas of the border it makes perfect sense. I am not sure the Military helping smugglers is sanctioned by the Mexican officials higher up- or if some elements are bought off by smugglers. But anyone who denies that it is regularly happening on either side of the border is either uninformed or has an agenda.
Otherwise, it may be a plot by the Fox government to make us come over there and kick their a$$. Then we would have to support them according to international laws. It's a lose lose situation.
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Well said!!! I have been trying to explain to those who don't live on the border; but it is hard to make them understand what goes on here. I truly wish Americans would wake up!!
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