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To: Oztrich Boy
The advocates of "Intelligent Design" are ignorant, dshonest, or both.

How so, I can quote observable, demonstable and qualitative examples. If ID were dishonest, then the laws of choas would be true. The Universe would be a homogenius mass of Hydrogen, Helium and the such. We see the opposite, we see gas clouds collapsing due to gravity to form stars. We see stars use Nuclear Fission to create heavier atoms, until they reach Iron. Now, anyone can tell you that Fe is a more complex atom than H or He.

Dinosours had primitive hearts, digestive systems, brains, ect. Modern reptiles exhibit not only more complex hearts, they can tolerate greater changes in temperature than what we have learned that Dinosaurs could.

From evolution, we see that single cell organisms evolve to create colonies; further evolution shows that these colonies eventually 'specialize'; thus becoming more complex.

These examples fly in the face of the 2nd law of Thermodynamics. Specifically, this law states that everything in any given environment tends to go from an ordered state, to a state of homogenius pressure, temperature and a state of balanced forces. I submit that a solar system is a more ordered state than a gas cloud.

51 posted on 01/16/2006 9:00:19 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Hodar
" 2nd law of Thermodynamics. Specifically, this law states that everything in any given environment tends to go from an ordered state, to a state of homogenius pressure, temperature and a state of balanced forces."

Ah, the 2nd law violations again. Your definition is wrong. After you get a good one, provide an example of where the 2nd law is violated. Note that you didn't give any examples in your post.

"If ID were dishonest, then the laws of choas would be true. The Universe would be a homogenius mass of Hydrogen, Helium and the such."

Ridiculous!

85 posted on 01/16/2006 9:11:40 PM PST by spunkets
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To: Hodar
Ignorance is a option

Dinosours had primitive hearts, digestive systems, brains, ect

Otherwise they would have been better, not bitter

226 posted on 01/16/2006 10:03:26 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering)
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To: Hodar
I do declare:

As an evolution/creationism thread grows longer, the probability of someone bringing up the Second Law of Thermodynamics approaches 1.
328 posted on 01/16/2006 11:18:42 PM PST by non-anonymous
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To: Hodar

Speaking on behalf of the Christian Church of Organized Matter I can say without reservation that you are correct in presenting the Law of Chaos as currently inoperative on this planet.


435 posted on 01/17/2006 7:16:18 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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