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Carville: Democrats Have a 'Disease'
NewsMax ^ | 1/17/06 | Paul Rodriguez

Posted on 01/16/2006 4:33:21 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee
And it'll happen with a new cadre of "challenging candidates" willing to reform Washington down to its core, Carville argues.

Yeah, just like Bill Clinton, who promised the most ethical administration in history and then delivered on his promise.

Not.

Carville seems to make a lot of good points. But they are just as insincere as any other Dem, other than Joe Lieberman, who is willing to take heat to stand up for at least one conviction.

History will show that George Bush was gifted by the arrogance and incompetence of his enemies.

41 posted on 01/16/2006 4:57:24 PM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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To: 1L; wagglebee

<< Salaries for members of Congress should be $350,000

Actually, it should be $25,000 a year. >>

It should either be a dollar a year plus the reimbursement of the actual, receipted, expenses incurred on getting to and from and staying in DC according to feral-employee rules or, to take Thomas Sowell's advice, a Million Bucks a year and all the way First Class and Five Star.

The first suggestion would attract Constitutionally-oriented representatives and the latter likely a class of person with some actual life and business talent and experience.

Sure be a change from todays failed lawyers and other dismal hacks.

As for Carvile's "Democrats" disease? Yep, they're sick all right. But its their inability to create an idea and/or to experience an original thought that has, thank God, doomed them.

Now, if only we can get a bloody Republican to create an idea and/or to experience an original thought!!


42 posted on 01/16/2006 4:58:22 PM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: SteveMcKing
Why is NewsMax always falling for this tripe?

Actually, I appreciate NewsMax giving this subject the detail it deserves. We are seeing the chess pieces being placed on the board for the 2008 elections. Pay close attention.

43 posted on 01/16/2006 4:58:32 PM PST by dirtboy (My new years resolution is to quit using taglines...)
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To: wagglebee

bump for later


44 posted on 01/16/2006 4:58:37 PM PST by bellas_sister (www.bracketfish.org)
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To: wagglebee
they stand for too much and that it doesn't fit into America," he says.

Well, in that case the Dems have a terminal problem. They are elitists and superiorists who deeply believe they know what's best for everyone. They can't help themselves from piously pontificating on everything and telling everyone how to live. That ain't gonna change.

45 posted on 01/16/2006 4:59:18 PM PST by Starboard
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To: Ouderkirk

"Carville is exactly right. Read what he says..he makes a coherent argument which is why the democRATS base will never listen to him."

I agree. I've heard him speak, and James knows his stuff. And it works equally as well for either side of the isle. He really is in the wrong party at the wrong place and the wrong time in history.

I've read his books, looking for ideas as to what would work best on some of our local, REPUBLICAN campaigns as far as message and media positioning; I wouldn't dismiss his ideas out of hand.


46 posted on 01/16/2006 4:59:24 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Brian Allen

I would go for paying senators and congressmen a very high salary AND putting term limits in place.


47 posted on 01/16/2006 4:59:34 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

The 'Rats have AIDS?


48 posted on 01/16/2006 5:00:02 PM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: wagglebee

I'd take this more seriously if Jim Carville weren't so much the poster child for just the kind of hatefulness he's criticizing here, if he weren't so much the role model for the media strategy of the post-Clinton Democratic Party. Jimmy, this is the party Bill and Hillary and you and Paul Begala and all the other little imps made. You now look foolish complaining that it looks like hell.


49 posted on 01/16/2006 5:00:54 PM PST by RichInOC ("Wheah's mah gumbo?!")
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To: LibertarianInExile
"We think the problem with the party is anatomical,"

Thunder Thighs?

50 posted on 01/16/2006 5:01:50 PM PST by realpatriot (Some spelling errers entionally included!)
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To: headstamp
John Boy is still having a love affair with the sun lamp.

That's a skanky looking orange cast he has to his-self...wonder if it's ManTan ointment.

52 posted on 01/16/2006 5:03:10 PM PST by ErnBatavia (I post in slang..live with it or ignore it - reader's choice.)
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To: SteveMcKing
"It makes me wonder who's running the show over there,..."

Why, the inmates, of course!
If we still had loony bins, NObody would vote Dimocratic!

53 posted on 01/16/2006 5:03:58 PM PST by Redbob
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To: wagglebee
America should shift to much more use of nuclear power and even drill in the ANWR if need be.

I think ELF/ALF/PETA/Sierra just put a contract out on Carville. I think they'd fall over themselves to sink any Dem candidate that said this.

New Orleans should become the first "Green City" in America, making it a showcase of what can be done.

An even more collosal failure of the socialist welfare state. I can just see BILLIONS spent on mass transit that noone uses.

... Progressive Patriotism...

Is that what we're calling treason and hate of america and what it stands for now ?

Whatever, Carville. A decade late and about a mile short.
54 posted on 01/16/2006 5:05:10 PM PST by farlander
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To: realpatriot

Actually I think it has to do with the size of the opening(s) where the hot air/methane comes out of...


55 posted on 01/16/2006 5:06:10 PM PST by farlander
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To: Ouderkirk
Carville is exactly right.

He is "right", but he it disingenuous.

Once elected, democrats will not support any conservative decision on guns, abortion, or environmental policies. Nor will half of republicans, it seems.

He is right, but he is lying through his teeth about his intentions. NewsMax is being suckered.

56 posted on 01/16/2006 5:07:23 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: wagglebee
"You hear a Democratic speech and you hear that 'I stand for a woman's right to choose, a person's right to health care, a nationalist foreign policy, a cleaner environment,'" Carville says.

Such lists just "produces a litany" of ideas that "sounds like something we're for. But it doesn't mean anything."

He's got that part right.

57 posted on 01/16/2006 5:07:53 PM PST by packrat35 (The America hating bastards at the NYT must spend their entire life with their heads in the toilet)
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To: wagglebee
"We actually believe, and we have a chapter in [the book] on it, that the Democrats should embrace what we call 'Progressive Patriotism.' We should wrap ourselves in the flag just like Republicans have done so successfully post-9/11 and even back to 1994 when House Republicans developed their "Contract with America."

Carville then donned the newly proposed "official uniform of the Democratic Party", and unfurled the proposed flag...


58 posted on 01/16/2006 5:09:51 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: 1L

It's already over $350,000 a year, as on top of the Congressional salary, which puts the in the top one half of one percent of American earners, there's an even larger Travel Allowance, and an almost million dollar staff allowance, etc. Not to mention the graft they all take from lobbyists.

Some Congressmen come as middle class, but they all leave Congress -- even one-termers -- as millionaires. Most of them are totally dedicated to lining their own pockets.

The Republicans are just as crooked as the Democrats ever were. The two guys contending for DeLay's old job are both grifters -- Boehner is known as "Mr K Street" for his coziness with lobbyists, and Blunt ditched his wife of thirty years for a K Street bimbo, a small contribution from the tobacco lobby. If these guys are the leaders of the Republicans, the Democrats can't be that much worse.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F


59 posted on 01/16/2006 5:10:05 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: wagglebee
Carville's right, but hardly original. MoveOn.org liberalism cannot garner a majority, hasn't since 1964. Old Labour had the same disease. Clinton and Blair figured out how to win by trying to take the middle ground away from their conservative parties. It's amazing the Dims have already forgotten the lesson.
60 posted on 01/16/2006 5:10:44 PM PST by colorado tanker (I can't comment on things that might come before the Court, but I can tell you my Pinochle strategy)
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