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Jack Murtha's "Fake" Purple Hearts, An Open Letter
Strange Military.com ^ | Jan 12, 2006 | Kelly Anne & Don Bailey

Posted on 01/15/2006 4:00:20 PM PST by armydawg1

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To: Calpernia

I dont blame him for not going to see them now. He might not like the reception he would likely get.


201 posted on 01/16/2006 11:47:40 AM PST by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: Peach

So where does it say Moveon.org?
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1558666/posts?page=119#119

Please try and pay attention to detail.


202 posted on 01/16/2006 11:58:21 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Plank Owner : Department of Homeland Security)
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To: El Gato

I missed this post last night. It was awful to watch.


203 posted on 01/16/2006 11:59:31 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: All

I'm sorry, the senile defense has now been put to rest. This is no different than when Vietnam did their broadcasts.



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1558539/posts
“Vast majority of U.S. troops forced to leave Iraq” (Murtha gets his mug in Aljazeera)


204 posted on 01/16/2006 12:06:00 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Peach

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1558539/posts
“Vast majority of U.S. troops forced to leave Iraq” (Murtha gets his mug in Aljazeera)


205 posted on 01/16/2006 12:13:40 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Plank Owner : Department of Homeland Security)
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To: palmer

I honestly believe that we will never be able to make Kerry account for his actions during the Viet Nam war and we will never be able to have thrown out of the senate because he is there illegally.

That being said I still support any efforts towards those goals, I just believe that it will never happen because Kerry like Teddy Kennedy is democrat royalty and can't be punished for those illegal acts he has done.

So I'm willing to settle for Muthra because right now he is more dangerous to our war effort then anyone outside of Iraq, Afghanistan or Pakistan. And I do believe he knows exactly what he is doing and he is doing it with the full knowledge and support of The DNC.

Who knows they maybe even scripting his words and actions.


206 posted on 01/16/2006 1:24:21 PM PST by usmcobra (Liberal=progressive...Conservative="Retro?" That's way cooler than being just a Neo-con!)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

You can't read. Seek help. Immediately.


207 posted on 01/16/2006 1:41:10 PM PST by Peach
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To: usmcobra
So I'm willing to settle for Muthra because right now he is more dangerous to our war effort then anyone outside of Iraq, Afghanistan or Pakistan.

The whole DNC/media establishment is a danger right now, relentlessly driving down popular support. Murtha is their latest and best useful idiot. There will be more later in the form of new "whistleblowers", new war crime "confessions", etc. There may not be too many more vets like Murtha for them to use, but there are some scary RINOs that they might be able to flip. All I'm saying is look at the big picture of their anti-victory efforts and keep them in mind while you fight this one battle.

208 posted on 01/16/2006 1:50:24 PM PST by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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To: pepsionice
"I can say alot of negative things about McCain...but he has a military career that cannot be stained."

I agree, but I also think that McCain is damaged goods.

209 posted on 01/16/2006 1:53:33 PM PST by Radix (Welcome home 3 ID!)
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To: Peach

"The only thing necessary to insure the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke (1729-1797)

Dear Peach,

I'm sure you are aware of this quote since I borrowed it from your homepage. Could you tell me how you relate it to what you think we should do about Muthra?

Or Kerry?

Let me make something perfectly clear to anyone that cares,

Muthra is not senile,

He knows exactly what he is saying and he is following a template that worked very well for an organization once called Viet Nam Veterans Against the War.

Maybe you've heard of it Senator Kerry was one of it's founding members and Teddy Kennedy one of it's biggest supporters.

Their goals here are the defeat and humiliation of our forces engaged in a war against terrorism, just like They stopped our forces engaged in a war against communism during Viet Nam.

By all accounts Muthra is smart enough and savvy enough to know the negative effects his words are having, as well as being able to know that we are at war with an enemy that unlike the communists, aren't going to sit down and talk peace any time soon if at all.

Why he must be stopped by any means available is that he knows exactly what he is doing, doesn't care what the end results are to our troops and that he is doing it for pure political motives to appeal to the radical liberal base of the democratic party.


210 posted on 01/16/2006 1:57:02 PM PST by usmcobra (Liberal=progressive...Conservative="Retro?" That's way cooler than being just a Neo-con!)
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To: Peach

"You can't read. Seek help. Immediately."

Like I said, I make history, you live in the past.


211 posted on 01/16/2006 1:59:19 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Plank Owner : Department of Homeland Security)
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To: usmcobra

>>>>I honestly believe that we will never be able to make Kerry account for his actions during the Viet Nam war and we will never be able to have thrown out of the senate because he is there illegally.


Why? This is where we need legal guidance. Why can't one of us, or all as a group, go to the court house and fill out the paperwork to file criminal charges?

It can be done. It is allowed. Our elects aren't doing it. We should.


212 posted on 01/16/2006 2:37:03 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Peach
Have the Mary Mapes/Dan Rather truth verification team work on the details....
213 posted on 01/16/2006 2:40:47 PM PST by pointsal
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To: Calpernia

An easy answer, treason charges can only be brought by the federal government, and believe it or not, Senators and Congressmen are some what immune from most ordinary civil cases directly related to their work in Congress.

In order to try them for crimes commited during their duties in Congress, I.E. treason, the congress itself would have to bring the charges, which is why so far Kerry has escaped any sort of federal case of treason, he has been cushioned by democratic and like minded supporters.

And I honestly don't like it one bit.


214 posted on 01/16/2006 2:47:45 PM PST by usmcobra (Liberal=progressive...Conservative="Retro?" That's way cooler than being just a Neo-con!)
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To: usmcobra

Dear Usmcobra: Have you read the thread? I've made my feelings perfectly known on how this is different than how Kerry was dealth with.

Reasoned people can disagree; it's the name calling that is intolerable when one disagrees with how to deal with Murtha.

And some people like to inflate their own importance on this thread.


215 posted on 01/16/2006 3:10:25 PM PST by Peach
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To: usmcobra

An easy answer, treason charges can only be brought by the federal government, and believe it or not, Senators and Congressmen are some what immune from most ordinary civil cases directly related to their work in Congress.

In order to try them for crimes commited during their duties in Congress, I.E. treason, the congress itself would have to bring the charges, which is why so far Kerry has escaped any sort of federal case of treason, he has been cushioned by democratic and like minded supporters.




Now trust me, I know nothing about the legal system. I get a mental block immediately when I hear run on sentences with double talk.

But....

From what I've been reading, the immunity of which you are referring to is from civil lawsuits. Criminal charges can be filed by civilians.

To my understanding, that is two different animals.

Now, if the actual charges of treason are off limits, this is where legal guidance is needed, they (Kerry, Kennedy, Murtha, pick a name) have done more than treason, why not bring charges against one of their other actions?

The purpose is to show these clowns we mean business and enough is enough.


216 posted on 01/16/2006 3:59:45 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Sorry about my typo. Got Kerry on the brain? I guess I'm having trouble differentiating.

I've been looking at Murtha quite a bit this afternoon. Here are some tidbits...

He was an unindicted co-conspirator in Abscam...and on Nov 20 19980 testified against Reps. John Murphy and Frank Thompson.


Representative John P. 'Jack' Murtha (PA). Biographical · Issue Positions(NPAT) ...
www.vote-smart.org/extended_bio.php?can_id=H3460103
This is interesting. Look at all the awards. All dated 2000 and up. Nothing before that.

www.dailykos.com/story/2006/1/13/183744/029
"According to some wingnut on HuffPo (none / 1)
They're supposedly going to open up the cannons in April. If you read the comments under the Huffington Post article, you'll notice a troll called "crestedbutte" who keeps saying to wait until April for news about Murtha and that he was 'denied something'."

All that aside. I found this:
JOHN KERRY TAKES ON THE SWIFT VETS RETROACTIVELY
http://corner.nationalreview.com/05_11_13_corner-archive.asp#082964


217 posted on 01/16/2006 4:32:57 PM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: Calpernia
If treason charges could be brought by an ordinary citizen, I'm guessing that John O'Neill would have brought them a long time ago.

There is enough in the FBI's files on VVAW and Kerry to hang him for treason and conspiracy to assassinate seven republican senators, his only protection has been the democratic party self defence mechanism, that and his ties to the Kennedys.
218 posted on 01/16/2006 4:36:41 PM PST by usmcobra (Liberal=progressive...Conservative="Retro?" That's way cooler than being just a Neo-con!)
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To: freema

More info for review:

http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-news/1489385/posts
My Enemy's Enemy by George Crile


219 posted on 01/16/2006 4:39:42 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: usmcobra

Did you read my whole post at 216? Or just skim?


220 posted on 01/16/2006 4:41:14 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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