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WHAT'S INFECTING SCIENCE? (book review: Tom Bethell's "The Politically Incorrect Guide To Science")
New York Post ^ | January 15, 2006 | PAM WINNICK

Posted on 01/15/2006 3:00:30 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight

MOST of us think that science is based on observable fact, free of political influence. But as Tom Bethell shows in "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Science," the virus of political correctness has infected science, too, invariably leading to the government trough.

In order to pump up government funding, the scientific community invents "crises" which can only be resolved with massive infusions of taxpayer funds. Hypocritically, the wealthy adherents of political correctness happily rob the poor to pay the rich.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: bookreview; crevolist; federalfunding; influence; science; study
Unfortunately to read this entire book review, one needs to 'register' with the NY Post Online. I refuse to do so, since they ask way too many questions, and also because I get the Post print edition delivered to my house every morning (although it took a while to find this morning, buried under some 5" of snow which fell overnight :)

This sounds like an interesting book as to how science has become so politicized over the years that it isn't about 'finding truth' anymore, but about obtaining and sustaining government grant money amongst scientists.

1 posted on 01/15/2006 3:00:31 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Mr_Moonlight

Try http://www.bugmenot.com


2 posted on 01/15/2006 3:01:54 PM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: Mr_Moonlight
There is only one serious potential crises that I know of, one that could effect the health and safety of every American.

This natural disaster will occur should I ever run out of Decaf coffee.
3 posted on 01/15/2006 3:07:39 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Mr_Moonlight

[...science has become so politicized over the years that it isn't about 'finding truth' anymore, but about obtaining and sustaining government grant money amongst scientists.]



This is something of a distortion. There have always been scientists who reached biased conclusions based on pleasing their benefactors and there always will be. It is no worse now than it has been in the past.


4 posted on 01/15/2006 3:17:35 PM PST by spinestein
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To: Pukin Dog

I haven't read the book yet, have you? Does it mention the global crisis of running out of DeCaf ?? /grin


5 posted on 01/15/2006 3:18:25 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: spinestein
This is something of a distortion. There have always been scientists who reached biased conclusions based on pleasing their benefactors and there always will be. It is no worse now than it has been in the past.

Yes, you're right .... Galileo Galilei comes to mind

6 posted on 01/15/2006 3:22:20 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Mr_Moonlight

Haven't read the thread yet, so perhaps someone has mentioned it ... but "State of Fear" by Michael Crichton factually illustrates this on the environmental side of the picture. The book is a real eye-opener, especially as it's scrupulously footnoted and sourced.


7 posted on 01/15/2006 3:29:42 PM PST by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: Mr_Moonlight
Here is one problems with "science" as it it is currently practiced. The scientific method is this procedure.
1. Unexplained fact or phenomenon
2. Fact gathering
3. Hypothesis
4. Experimentation
5. Duplication
6. Application

Notice that my politics do not influence the outcome. Anyone in the world can duplicate my experiment and check my results which were published in a peer reviewed journal.

Today, however; the scope of some experiments (or the secrecy surrounding their procedures) makes it impossible for an individual researcher to duplicate their results.

Notice with climatic predictions are done with supercomputers by government or university labs. The data inputs and the results of the runs are not available. All that is reported is the interpretations which are subject to
biases. Consequently, the scientific method is bent and the results are suspect.
8 posted on 01/15/2006 3:46:39 PM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends again)
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To: Mr_Moonlight

this can also apply to funding for research:

A Porsche 911 for AIDS, a 10 speed for Prostate Cancer

According to a chart from the National Institute of Health (which can be viewed in its entirety here), the NIH will spend an estimated $3.6 billion on AIDS related research for the current fiscal year, rising to $4 billion in FY 2003. In comparison the NIH will spend $360 million on prostate cancer this year, rising to $400 million in FY 2003.

According to the Centers for Disease Control, 31,000 men died of prostate cancer in 2000, and every year 2.3 million men are diagnosed with the disease. In contrast, 14,802 people died of AIDS in 1999 while only 45,000 were diagnosed with the disease that year. If we use the money figures for FY 2002 and the number of new diagnoses just mentioned we find that the NIH spends $157 on each new prostate cancer diagnosis versus $80,000 on each new AIDS diagnosis. Or let's put it another way. Divide the money by the deaths and the US government spends $243,210 trying (and failing) to prevent each AIDS death - while only spending $11,613 attempting to save the life of a man who dies from prostate cancer. Sources: CDC: Table 53. Acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS) cases, according to age at diagnosis, sex, detailed race, and Hispanic origin: United States, selected years 1985-2000. HIV Fastfacts. Prostate Disease Fastfacts. Gary S. Becker of The Hoover Institute pointed out in an article appearing in the April 19, 1999 issue of Businessweek: "Research on AIDS has been much more generously funded by the federal government during the past decade than has research on breast and prostate cancer and other diseases that kill many more people."

One could in fact argue that the federal government is caving in to intimidation at the expense of research in diseases that affect more people yet lack the theatrical antics of a misguided yet trendy advocacy group. It's unfortunate given the fact that every man - straight or gay, monogamous or polyamorous will eventually face prostate cancer should he be lucky to live long enough. A man can avoid catching AIDS. He can't avoid prostate cancer.


9 posted on 01/15/2006 3:59:27 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

i wouldn't disagree about politics affecting science; i know it does. but i'm skeptical about what your are saying about only intepretations as opposed to results being reported. i don't read meteorology journals, so i don't know for sure, but most scientific journals require results to be reported. if they didn't, anyone could report anything. (obtaining data sets, however, might be a lot more difficult.)


10 posted on 01/15/2006 4:25:57 PM PST by drhogan
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

the real politics comes in with the funding and with the selection of articles for publication. certain studies will be funded, and others won't. but that's the nature of running studies at taxpayers expense--the representatives of the taxpayers, along with the executive branch, determine funding priorities. (and there's nothing really wrong with that.)
the second political sifting comes when peers review and then decide whether or not to accept an article for publication. however, there are usually ways to get around political obstacles, e.g., by submitting to less-exalted publications.


11 posted on 01/15/2006 4:32:17 PM PST by drhogan
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To: Mr_Moonlight; PatrickHenry; RadioAstronomer; Ichneumon; longshadow; Right Wing Professor; ...

Unfortunately, if anyone's abusing science here, it's Bethell himself, and he's making us all look bad in doing so. In addition to being a tireless advocate for Intelligent Design, he has advocated such spurious ideas as Duesberg's theories on AIDS and Van Flandern's futile attempts at refuting relativity. Bethell is only helping the opposition, by making the left's "Republicans are anti-science and conservatives are stupid" meme look more convincing to the undecided. We can't let the scientific illiteracy of a few drag us all down.


12 posted on 01/15/2006 6:39:37 PM PST by RightWingAtheist ("Why thank you Mr.Obama, I'm proud to be a Darwinist!")
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To: RightWingAtheist

The nation that invented the Nase-o-Graph can't be held down.


13 posted on 01/15/2006 6:55:30 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: RightWingAtheist; Mr_Moonlight
Unfortunately, if anyone's abusing science here, it's Bethell himself, and he's making us all look bad in doing so.

Yes, he is. And by doing this, he is diminishing the credibility of those who are responsibly making valid complaints!

...he has advocated such spurious ideas as Duesberg's theories on AIDS...

Well, the importance I see with Duesberg was that he highlighted the problem of how questions and opposing hypotheses are overlooked in modern science.

An important part of the review that wasn't posted is the following:

[...]Bethell occasionally plays fast and loose with facts. He claims, for example, that "careful U.S. studies" show that a heterosexual can acquire AIDS only after a minimum of 1,000 contacts; in other words, a one-night stand isn't enough. But he doesn't cite any of these studies to support this highly dubious claim. [...]
If this is what Bethell actually claimed, then he obviously does not understand the material about which he writes. But then again, it's taken right from Duesberg.
14 posted on 01/15/2006 7:19:58 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: RightWingAtheist
Bethell is only helping the opposition, by making the left's "Republicans are anti-science and conservatives are stupid" meme look more convincing to the undecided.

He's another embarrassment.

15 posted on 01/15/2006 7:25:17 PM PST by aculeus
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To: drhogan

The classic example of science corrupted by politics is the fiasco of Trofim Lysenko and his fabricated genetics to please Stalin.

The science historian Conway Zirkle wrote some excellent books about the corruption of science by politics.


16 posted on 01/16/2006 1:18:03 AM PST by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semites.)
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To: Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi

the stalinist system of science was truly awful. it wasn't even really science, because ideology always over-rode empirical results.


17 posted on 01/16/2006 7:36:47 AM PST by drhogan
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To: RightWingAtheist
Bethell is only helping the opposition, by making the left's "Republicans are anti-science and conservatives are stupid" meme look more convincing to the undecided. We can't let the scientific illiteracy of a few drag us all down.

Excellent points. No doubt there is corruption and dishonesty in science just as in any other field but the process of the scientific method and peer review at least attempts to curb the dishonesty. The fact that we are aware of some of the bad science is only further evidence that the process works- sometimes it may take some time but the truth eventually comes out.

18 posted on 01/16/2006 8:49:55 AM PST by GreenFreeper (Not blind opposition to progress, but opposition to blind progress)
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To: spinestein
There have always been scientists who reached biased conclusions based on pleasing their benefactors and there always will be. It is no worse now than it has been in the past.

The difference is that it's not foolish "benefactors" who pick up the tab for this modern day alchemy, it's taxpayers. And it's not just about money, but power and control.

19 posted on 01/16/2006 8:53:23 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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