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Very interesting article. My first post too...
1 posted on 01/15/2006 10:04:06 AM PST by weef
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Thanks. I like what if's...


2 posted on 01/15/2006 10:06:27 AM PST by DeuceTraveler (Freedom is a never ending struggle)
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Good article :)


3 posted on 01/15/2006 10:10:08 AM PST by mosquewatch.com ("The enemy is anyone who will get you killed, no matter what side they are on.")
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Very interesting article. My first post too...

We hand you the ceremonial crown and scepter
4 posted on 01/15/2006 10:11:53 AM PST by HangnJudge
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If it were actually an article from the future there would be two differances. 1 no oil shortage and 2 the question "what's a muslim?"
5 posted on 01/15/2006 10:12:26 AM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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The scary part is China siding with Tehran.


6 posted on 01/15/2006 10:19:20 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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He omitted the scene of thousands of ships full of starving, freezing Europeans streaming into US ports, only to be fired upon by the Navy. Actually, I'd pay to see that.


10 posted on 01/15/2006 10:30:15 AM PST by pabianice
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To: weef

Scary stuff.


11 posted on 01/15/2006 10:35:54 AM PST by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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To: weef

said it a hundred times...this is still the "Phoney war" stage of the conflict


12 posted on 01/15/2006 10:36:37 AM PST by wildcatf4f3 (the friend of my enemy is my enemy)
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To: weef
Ferguson is a respected historian, he may be on to something. China's political interests are Taiwan and Korea, not Iran, but they need oil big time. The Shiites "overrunning" our bases in Iraq is a bit far fetched. A nuke exchange in the middle east is not that unfathomable.

schu
15 posted on 01/15/2006 10:41:15 AM PST by schu
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To: weef

Interesting read.


18 posted on 01/15/2006 10:46:37 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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I don't see how China could plausibly threaten the U.S. by 2007. From what I have read, the U.S. has WAY more nukes than China, in fact a lot more nukes than China and Russia combined. If it came down to flying nukes in the Middle East, the U.S. would settle that situation pretty quickly, by lobbing it's own into the mix. China and Russia could be kept at bay by simply reminding them that we had PLENTY of nukes left over to take care of both of them too, should the need arise.

Perhaps Iran would be crazy enough to lob a few nukes at Israel - but that would be their entire arsenal. However, I would imagine that Israel's response would equally devestate Iran, as I believe Israel probably has more nukes than Iran. In addition, the U.S. would probably "plant" a few nukes in Iran also. I think that would pretty much end any conflict for the time being. Any conventional military force fielded in the Mid East by China and Russia, should they choose to invade, would be taken care by more U.S. nukes if needed - the U.S. could not allow the Mid East oil to fall into enemy hands.

The only way I can see the U.S. "advantage" being countered is for China to build a LOT more nukes, so that the threat of retailiation by the U.S. becomes meaningless (back to the cold war again). However, if China started this type of nuclear buildup, the U.S. would begin doing the same, just like we did back during the time of the Soviets.

This of course is all built upon my original premise that the U.S. really DOES have a lot more nukes than everyone else combined (at this point in time, anyway). If I am wrong about that, then China and Russia might feel more emboldened, as outlined in this article. Otherwise, China is not not going to feel ready to move openly against the U.S. for at least another decade (and hopefully a lot longer - like NEVER!!).

My biggest fear with Iran is that while they are busy posturing out in the open, they will build a few nukes and secretly give them to al-qada (or however it is spelled!!). These would then be smuggled into the U.S. and detonated in a few of our large cities. Dealing with THAT would effectively cause us to retreat from the world stage for several years, at least. Which is what the Islamo-facists really want.

It would also make us so paranoid about our sea ports and imports that we would essentially stop importing all foreign goods for a REALLY long time, even though most of our nation would still be intact (not to mention that everyone in the U.S. would be in a panic to move out of the large cities, and everyone would be moving here and there trying to avoid living in the next nuclear target zone - even though there probably would be no "next nuclear target zone"). The net effect would be the collapse of the world economy. Then, all bets would be off!!

Of course, not all world leaders react in a predictable fashion, so anything could and would happen in reality. Let us all pray that cool heads prevail everywhere, and that NONE of this comes to pass.


20 posted on 01/15/2006 10:48:36 AM PST by Zetman (This secret to simple and inexpensive cold fusion intentionally left blank.)
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The origins of the Great War of 2007 - and how it could have been prevented

After reading the entire article, political movie themes are at their pinnacle.

Global warming has been done, invasion from space has been done, numerous movies of ME conflict have been done.

A war in the near future is a most thought out idea for a movie to bring back the disenchanted who have left the theater for reasons of disinterest.

21 posted on 01/15/2006 10:48:53 AM PST by EGPWS
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The Mullahs are mad but I have noticed that as they cheer martyrdom for their own people, they are very protective of their own lives. They do not wish to die. They will not attack Israel, so long as they have collective control. However, if one mad Mullah can gain effective control of a Nuclear weapon a launch against Israel is a very high probability. The first bombs Iran will be able to make will be Hiroshima type weapons that could kill tens of thousands or more Israelis. The Israelis have thermonuclear weapons and the neutron bomb.

If Israel is hit they would have the option of surgical nuclear strikes or massive retaliation meant to destroy Iran and or Syria as a functioning country. What was left would break up into sectarian fighting and feudal states. I would also expect a surgical nuclear strike on Pakistani nuclear facilities
24 posted on 01/15/2006 11:15:12 AM PST by cpdiii (roughneck (oil field trash and proud of it), geologist, pilot, pharmacist, full time iconoclast)
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This article is ridiculous. China wont even allow it's people to practice slow motion aerobics... you think they are going to embrace an Islamic theocracy?

ROFL !
30 posted on 01/15/2006 1:24:33 PM PST by conservative physics
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One thing I can guarantee you: When Iran has both the CAPABILITY AND INTENT TO NUKE ISRAEL, ISRAEL WILL LAUNCH A PREEMPTIVE STRIKE. It will not matter what Bush or anyone else says, we learned our lesson at Dauchau, NEVER AGAIN! The mad mullahs are probably hoping that such a strike by Israel will turn the Islamic world against the U.S., and that may happen. However, if the Iranian people let their leaders threaten Israel, they will suffer right along with the leaders.


31 posted on 01/15/2006 2:16:30 PM PST by darth
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A nuclear exchange between Irael and Iran would likely include a nuclear blast directly on Mecca and other Muslim holy sites.


33 posted on 01/15/2006 3:20:15 PM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: weef

Ping for later read


34 posted on 01/15/2006 3:32:14 PM PST by Dstorm
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To: weef

Thanks for posting this.

save


36 posted on 01/15/2006 4:16:46 PM PST by krunkygirl
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To: weef; DoctorZIn
Great find.

Zin, ping.

38 posted on 01/15/2006 8:25:13 PM PST by steveegg (Take two - throw those long knives at the DemonRATs and lieberals - and include the RINOs)
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Interesting Times ping


39 posted on 01/15/2006 8:32:57 PM PST by steveegg (Take two - throw those long knives at the DemonRATs and lieberals - and include the RINOs)
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