Posted on 01/14/2006 5:03:40 PM PST by PatrickHenry
The Discovery Institute, an organization which bills itself as the leading organization supporting scientific research into intelligent design is seeking to distance itself from creationists. Casey Luskin, an attorney with the Discovery Institute wrote a letter to John W. Wight, Superintendent of the El Tejon school district in California seeking to change the title or content of a class. The district is facing a lawsuit filed by parents over a course titled Philosophy of Design taught by Sharon Lemburg, the wife of a local minister.
According to Luskins letter the course inaccurately mixes intelligent design with young earth creationism or Biblical creationism. Moreover, it appears that more than half of the course content deals with young earth creationist materials. Luskin urged the schools superintendent to either reformulate the course by removing the young earth creationist materials or retitle the course as a course not focused on intelligent design.
The concern of Luskin and his fellows at the Discovery Institute is that intelligent design will be equated with creationism. He tries to explain the difference to Mr. Wight this way; Intelligent design is different from creationism because intelligent design is based upon empirical data, rather than religious scripture, and also because intelligent design is not a theory about the age of the earth. Moreover, unlike creationism, intelligent design does not try to inject itself into religious discussions about the identity of the intelligence responsible for life. Creationism, in contrast, always postulates a supernatural or divine creator. Thus the U.S. Supreme Court found that creationism was religion in 1987 in the case Edwards v. Aguillard. [opinion here.]
The reason the ID crowd wants to avoid this association is that teaching creationism is illegal as Luskin notes. After a scathing rebuke by Judge Jones in Dover last year [Kitzmiller et al. v Dover Area School District et al.] for trying to sneak intelligent design into science classes there, intelligent design advocates want to take every opportunity to paint their idea as science and not as creationism. But it should be noted that among the senior fellows and fellows for whom there are biographies on their site, they boast more theology degrees than chemistry, biophysics, molecular biology, biochemistry or physics. The only degree more widely represented than theology among them is philosophy. But they dont want the courts to think they are advancing any religious ideas.
Of course, most observers make that connection anyway. When Pat Robertson told Dover residents not to call on God because they had voted God out of their town he was making a direct connection between intelligent design and creationism. When one of Dovers school board members advocating intelligent design said 2000 years ago someone died on a cross. Cant someone take a stand for him? he was making a direct connection between intelligent design and creationism. Although the Discovery Institutes official line for intelligent design is science cant identify this intelligent designer senior fellow Michael Behe admits he thinks it is God.
The fact is, intelligent design is a thinly veiled attempt to legitimize creationism and import it into public schools as science. What I find hilarious about the Discovery Institutes letter to Mr. Wight is that Casey Luskin makes the assertion that Under the current formulation, the course title Philosophy of design misrepresents intelligent design by promoting young earth creationism under the guise of intelligent design. That is the proverbial pot calling the kettle black. Intelligent design proponents are trying to misrepresent science by promoting intelligent design under the guise of science.
Intelligent design is creationism. Refusing to name the creator doesnt change that. It only demonstrates how disingenuous its advocates are.
Prior thread on this topic: California High School Sued for Teaching 'Intelligent Design'.
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Yay! Hawks!
However, this arrangement helps to lower the annoyance of hearing stupid conversations like, "I just downloaded 'Hey Ya' to my iPod. Want to hear it? -- OH YES PLEASE I WOULD!"
Such is the gap between schools of our genesis.
ID - a perversion of religion and a perversion of science. Satan is likely envious that it wasn't his idea - or was it?
So ID is the new hip generation without substance while creationists are the more well-mannered establishment???
Besides, nothing in standard "scientific" (or "Biblical") creationism actually contradicts anything in "Intelligent Design". Officious ID'ers may claim that the two are not wholly identical, but they can't sensibly deny that one is a subset of the other. It would be like the AMA trying to claim that surgeons are doctors but internists aren't.
The entire edifice of ID is a transparent fraud, designed by charlatans to slip creationism past the courts, because the judges -- so the ID gurus imagine -- are too dumb to notice that ID is pure creationism. But at the same time, out in the trailer parks, the creationism crowd is supposed to be wildly cheering for ID because they get it, while the federal judges somehow can't figure it out.
Brilliant strategy. But it seems to be falling apart. Judges aren't the idiots that the Discovery Institute thinks they are, and the ID enthusiasts in the trailer parks just can't let go of their young-earth-creationism. How embarrassing. Eventually, the "Discovery" Institute will actually discover something -- that they're not quite as smart as they thought.
I'm a young earth creationist. I don't think the planet is a day over 3 billion years old.
I don't understand your comment.
...But they're still playing the same song! LOL!
And da devole made ya do it! LOL!
I think that he is officially agnostic on the whole young earth/old earth thing, but I seriously doubt that he personally believes the earth is only 6,000 years old. A great many scientists are skeptical of or troubled by the over-reaching claims made by the evolution-only folks, but few endorse the young earth idea.
Wouldn't that be a little like mixing butter with grits? So, is this an evangelical rift or just biting the hand that feeds you?
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