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As usual, conservative Christians don't get it
Renew America ^ | Jan 10, 2006 | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 01/13/2006 6:36:27 PM PST by Tyche

With confirmation hearings underway for Judge Samuel Alito, many conservative Christians are focusing on the abortion issue. In fact, many pro-life activists are hailing Alito as the man who would overturn legalized abortion in America.

However, as is usually the case, most conservative Christians cannot see beyond the abortion debate to look at the bigger picture. Then again, myopia seems to be a permanent disorder affecting a majority of conservative Christians today, so why should things suddenly change now?

For the record, Judge Alito probably finds abortion personally repugnant. It is certainly safe to say that Alito's opinions on abortion seem to reflect greater respect for life than anything we saw from Justice Sandra Day O'Connor. However, that reality alone will not make much difference. There is a greater reality at work here that most conservative Christians deliberately choose to ignore: the Republican Party has no intentions of ending legalized abortion! Absolutely none!

To the vast majority of Republicans in Washington, D.C., the abortion issue is merely a ready-made sugar-stick to hand out to conservative Christians every election cycle in order to keep them corralled in the GOP vote column.

As long as a Republican candidate can claim to be "pro-life," he or she can count on receiving sizeable support from conservative Christians. That simple statement, whether genuine or not, whether followed with any substantive action or not, guarantees that most Christian televangelists will spend countless hours pleading with their supporters to vote "pro-life" by supporting the GOP ticket.

It doesn't matter that so-called "pro-life" Republican candidates have had over 30 years to overturn Roe and are no closer now to doing so than they were when Roe was first decided. It doesn't matter that not a single "pro-life" Republican congressman has introduced legislation under Article III, Section 2, of the U.S. Constitution to remove Roe from the jurisdiction of the Court, which is the prerogative of Congress to do. It doesn't matter that after spending multiplied millions of dollars and electing hundreds of "pro-life" Republicans, nothing has been done to overturn Roe. It doesn't matter that the Republican Party has controlled the White House for over 17 of the last 25 years and, accordingly, has controlled appointments to the U.S. Supreme Court for all of those years (not to mention the fact that it was a majority Republican- appointed Court that passed the Roe decision), and nothing has been done to overturn Roe. All that matters is that Republicans talk "pro-life" during the election cycle.

How can any sensible person believe that the Republican Party truly intends to overturn the Roe v Wade Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion on demand? It's beyond laughable: it's hysterical!

Even if Judge Alito would vote to overturn Roe should the opportunity present itself, it is almost certain that Chief Justice John Roberts would not vote to overturn it. Therefore, the vote to overturn Roe is 6-3 against-at best! In other words, we are no closer to reversing Roe v Wade than we were before President Bush was elected!

However, none of this matters to most conservative Christians. After all, they can beat their chests, hobnob with Republican big- shots, raise millions of dollars from gullible Christians, and pretend to be "pro-life" every two years from now until the cows come home without worrying about anything of substance actually being done. What a racket! Yet, the situation is actually worse than that.

Worse than most Christians' gullibility regarding the abortion issue is the manner in which they give Republicans a pass on other issues of immense importance. It seems that all a Republican has to do to gain the confidence and support of the vast majority of conservative Christians is say he is "pro-life" and opposed to homosexual marriage. His or her position on virtually everything else doesn't seem to matter.

It doesn't seem to matter to most conservative Christians that President Bush has increased deficit spending beyond that of all previous administrations put together. Yes, you read it right: President Bush (with the aid of his fellow Republicans in Congress) is a bigger debtor than all 42 of his predecessors combined!

According to the McAlvany Intelligence Advisor, Dec. 2005, "According to the Treasury Department, from 1776-2000, the first 224 years of U.S. history, 42 U.S. presidents borrowed a combined $1.01 trillion from foreign governments and financial institutions, but in the past four years alone, the Bush administration borrowed $1.05 trillion." But that doesn't matter to a hill of beans to most conservative Christians. Bush is "pro-life."

It doesn't matter to the vast majority of conservative Christians that President Bush is attempting to accrue power to the executive branch at the expense of constitutional government, that he is championing extremely questionable, if not downright dangerous, legislation that could result in the dismantlement of civil and individual liberties. It doesn't matter that Bush is involved in the most intense nation-building scheme in post World War II history. It doesn't matter that he has done more to open the door of illegal immigration than any president in modern memory. It doesn't matter that he spearheaded (and continues to laud) the most expensive and most intrusive expansion of the federal government's role in public education in U.S. history. It doesn't matter that Bush continues to promote ill-conceived trade deals such as CAFTA and FTAA which weaken American independence and sacrifice thousands of American jobs. Because President Bush claims to be "pro-life," conservative Christians give him a pass on virtually any and all other conduct.

Therefore, even if (a big if) Judge Alito would join Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas as being willing to overturn Roe, the votes are still not there to actually do so.

Furthermore, President Bush could get at least one, and maybe two, additional Supreme Court appointments. Two of the Court's current justices are aged and in ill health. In other words, by the time Bush leaves office, he could get as many as four appointments to the High Court.

However, instead of overturning Roe v Wade, it is much more likely that the Supreme Court will further advance the imperialistic philosophy of the Bush administration resulting in an ongoing and rapid demise of individual liberties for American citizens. In other words, legalized abortion will still be intact but constitutional liberties won't be, Bush's appointments to the High Court notwithstanding. And, unfortunately, when it happens, conservative Christians still won't get it.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; 19minutes; abortion; alito; alitohearing; alitohearings; christians; chuckbaldwin; conservative; constitutionparty; issues; sabortion; trolltimer
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1 posted on 01/13/2006 6:36:29 PM PST by Tyche
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To: Tyche

"With confirmation hearings underway for Judge Samuel Alito, many conservative Christians are focusing on the abortion issue."

Did the author of this story watch the confirmation hearings? It wasn't the conservative Christians who were harping on abortion.


2 posted on 01/13/2006 6:40:20 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Sam Alito Deserves To Be Confirmed)
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To: Tyche
However, instead of overturning Roe v Wade, it is much more likely that the Supreme Court will further advance the imperialistic philosophy of the Bush administration resulting in an ongoing and rapid demise of individual liberties for American citizens. In other words, legalized abortion will still be intact but constitutional liberties won't be, Bush's appointments to the High Court notwithstanding. And, unfortunately, when it happens, conservative Christians still won't get it.

We will see.

3 posted on 01/13/2006 6:40:24 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Tyche
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4 posted on 01/13/2006 6:41:00 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

Good call, martin. Time for popcorn.

:)


5 posted on 01/13/2006 6:41:53 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Tyche
Articles that have the word "imperialistic" in relation to George Bush cannot and should not be taken seriously.

The author is obviously ignorant.
6 posted on 01/13/2006 6:42:59 PM PST by msnimje (Senate Democrats ----------- Sound and Furry Signifying INSIGNIFICANCE)
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To: Tyche

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1541651/posts


7 posted on 01/13/2006 6:43:32 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: writer33; martin_fierro
Anybody bring milk duds?
8 posted on 01/13/2006 6:43:41 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud member of the Free Republic Humility Club. We are twice as humble as you are.)
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To: msnimje

You mean President Bush isn't an imperial leader, msnimje?

:) HA!


9 posted on 01/13/2006 6:44:38 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Tyche

You fail to realize the fact that as soon as the terrible act is outlawed, the 'Rats will be fighting hard to de-criminalize it.

Expect a never ending (political) battle to protect the most helpless of us.


10 posted on 01/13/2006 6:45:00 PM PST by blackdiamondracer
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To: Tyche
In other words, legalized abortion will still be intact but constitutional liberties won't be

Speculative emotional ranting.

11 posted on 01/13/2006 6:45:03 PM PST by peyton randolph (As long is it does me no harm, I don't care if one worships Elmer Fudd.)
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To: Tyche

I'm satisfied that we are replacing old Justices with new, more conservative ones.

I can be patient while the make up of the Supreme Court slowly moves right.


12 posted on 01/13/2006 6:45:03 PM PST by airborne (If being a Christian was a crime, would there be enough evidence to convict you?)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

No, but we should've brought 'em.


13 posted on 01/13/2006 6:45:06 PM PST by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: Tyche

Just take the above text and substitute "Christian Conservatives" with "Jews" "African Americans" or "Muslims" and wait for the uproar.


14 posted on 01/13/2006 6:46:02 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Tyche
If Roe v Wade is overturned, abortion will still be legal in NY. I live with that thought even when I get my hopes up that it will be overturned.
15 posted on 01/13/2006 6:46:43 PM PST by tioga (Ashamed of Sen Chuck in the land of the Hildebeast.)
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To: msnimje

Did Pat Buchanon write this?


16 posted on 01/13/2006 6:47:09 PM PST by misterrob (Democrats, The Party of Treason)
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To: Tyche
The author slams CCs, then slams President Bush even harder, but, in such a manner that he is trying to appeal to the CCs, then he slams them again. I think he suffers from the classic hate-hate syndrome. Interesting read though.
17 posted on 01/13/2006 6:47:31 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (Diplomacy doesn't work when seagulls rain on your parade. A shotgun and umbrella does.)
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To: Tyche

Christians don’t get it? Christians' gullibility?

What utter nonsense of stereotypes, Christians do get the truth that is why they become Christian. Christians are also optimists, and look for the best in each individual, some may call they gullible, while to a Christian its not a matter of choice, we are commanded to have hope and are given the strength of faith for the best.


18 posted on 01/13/2006 6:47:39 PM PST by seastay
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To: misterrob

The article is pretty much crap, but if true this stat is shocking.

"According to the McAlvany Intelligence Advisor, Dec. 2005, "According to the Treasury Department, from 1776-2000, the first 224 years of U.S. history, 42 U.S. presidents borrowed a combined $1.01 trillion from foreign governments and financial institutions, but in the past four years alone, the Bush administration borrowed $1.05 trillion." But that doesn't matter to a hill of beans to most conservative Christians. Bush is "pro-life.""


19 posted on 01/13/2006 6:48:11 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: Tyche
Whatever....overturning Roe Vs. Wade is going to take a long, hard battle. Small victories have been made and I believe we will see it accomplished sometime in the distant future. The press and the abortion advocates have done such a fantastic job of taking the focus off of murdering a baby and putting the focus on the issue of a "women's choice", that those wishing to be politically correct call themselves pro-choice as a matter of default.

There are Republicans of course who don't want to see Roe vs. Wade overturned, but the Republicans have done far more for the pro-life side than the Democrats ever will. When you have a two-party system, you're stuck with the lesser of two evils.
20 posted on 01/13/2006 6:48:46 PM PST by bushinohio
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